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Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by naikrovek »

Operyl wrote: post #47
fxfan wrote: post #10

The biggest problem with Microsoft is them not sticking to their strength. I was an avid fanboy till Windows 7. This was an OS that could cater to power users- keyboard shortcuts, powershell (shitty console but anyway). They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. Linux is mature now,…

Huge rant incoming: My biggest issue is still not knowing how the (ugh..) fuck to remove Candy Crush Saga from my god damned “downloaded” apps list. On fucking Professional I should not have to deal with that crap. All the instructions on the internet I have found seem to no longer work, and it’s the tiny things that add up that really annoy me. It even shows up in classic shell ...

Right-click...

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by Operyl »

naikrovek wrote: post #71
Operyl wrote: post #47

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Huge rant incoming: My biggest issue is still not knowing how the (ugh..) fuck to remove Candy Crush Saga from my god damned “downloaded” apps list. On fucking Professional I should not have to deal with that crap. All the instructions on the internet I have found seem to no longer work, and it’s the tiny things that add up that really annoy me. It even shows up in classic shell ...

Right-click...

You can’t do that with the “advertisement packages”. Thanks for trying though ;).

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by sbr464 »

emptyfile wrote: post #32
sbr464 wrote: post #26

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I agree. It’s been a while, but using OG Windows, you’d open start, then ctrl + u or similar (it’s been a while), and you could restart without touching the mouse. I couldn’t figure how to do it (if possible) in win 10.

Alt + F4 ... been the same for a long time

Oh, I remember what it was:

On newer laptops, you typically have to press a function key to activate f4 (by default). On a thinkpad carbon/dell xps 13 those keys are a bit finicky, especially if used to a mac key layout.

In previous windows versions you could press the dedicated windows button then press "u" and the shutdown dialog would open.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by Operyl »

brianpgordon wrote: post #55
Operyl wrote: post #47

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Huge rant incoming: My biggest issue is still not knowing how the (ugh..) fuck to remove Candy Crush Saga from my god damned “downloaded” apps list. On fucking Professional I should not have to deal with that crap. All the instructions on the internet I have found seem to no longer work, and it’s the tiny things that add up that really annoy me. It even shows up in classic shell ...

This project is well-maintained (and extensively forked). It helps you turn all of that crap off. https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script I actually bought a Windows 10 Pro for Workstations license because I thought it would let me cleanly install Windows with just a power user set of functionality and none of that XBox / Candy Crush rubbish. Turns out that used to be true, but no longer. Unless y…

Its absurd. Even on the City Workstations I sometimes use when volunteering are plagued by candy crush saga!

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by mpnordland »

cm2187 wrote: post #48
mehrdadn wrote: post #14

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> They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. I get that for ordinary users it's a dealbreaker, but I never understood this complaint about the Windows 8 touch UI from power users or developers. It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a cla…

A lots of the Windows 8/10 design decisions are outright mistakes, not even controversial. Like in Windows 8, you had to place your mouse on the far right of the screen to access certain features. Fine with a small laptop touch screen, but clearly they haven’t tried it on a 4k, 42” non touch screen at native resolution where the side of the screen is far far away in term of mouse travel. I believe to this day, the Wi…

I have a similar search setup to yours at work. I type 'm' and get management studio every time. My previous computer developed it, and then it took some time for my current one to get it, but now it always works. I agree that there's some sort of learning going on with the search.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by GordonS »

Macha wrote: post #63
GordonS wrote: post #58

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I don't know if this is perhaps different for the Enterprise edition? I use the Enterprise edition, and while it asks me if I want to reboot to update from time to time, I don't remember it ever forcing a reboot - which is just as well, as I tend to go weeks without rebooting (I just put it to sleep when I'm done, so I can resume the next day). BTW, if anyone reading this thinks Enterprise edition is only available f…

Yes, on Home you have to pick a (12 now? Used to be 16) hour window as not being your active time during which time the OS will just inform you it's rebooting for updates and you don't get a choice. Pro used to be the same, but it hasn't bothered me about in a while so it may have been removed

Hmm, you get to pick a window on Enterprise too, but while it will remind you from time to time, I haven't had it force a reboot.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by naikrovek »

Operyl wrote: post #72
naikrovek wrote: post #71

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Right-click...

You can’t do that with the “advertisement packages”. Thanks for trying though ;).

Yes, you can. One of the options in that right-click menu is "turn off suggestions" which is how you turn them off.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by Operyl »

naikrovek wrote: post #77
Operyl wrote: post #72

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You can’t do that with the “advertisement packages”. Thanks for trying though ;).

Yes, you can. One of the options in that right-click menu is "turn off suggestions" which is how you turn them off.

In my case that is entirely broken. It just leaves it there. That’s why I’m frustrated. Regardless, it’s inappropriate to even have it enabled for a Professional installation. It’s so stupid.

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by antisthenes »

gregknicholson wrote: post #41
antisthenes wrote: post #35

I'll stick with Windows 7, thanks. The last OS that doesn't try to babysit me.

Have you met our lord and saviour Arch Linux?

When Windows 7 support ends, I'm very seriously considering switching to Linux as a main OS and keeping the W7 machine for air-gapped single player games.

Probably not Arch though, something a bit more user friendly, like Elementary OS or Solus Linux

Re: Microsoft begins work on its 2020 Windows releases in new preview

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Post by alxlaz »

mehrdadn wrote: post #68
alxlaz wrote: post #43

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Classic Shell is no longer maintained. It works okay-ish today, but while it was still maintained, its developers had to regularly fix it, because it does rely on undocumented APIs. It's a pretty safe bet that it won't work in the 2020 release, and I'm not aware of any good alternative. A lot of Linux (and Windows) users don't realize it, but the amount of work that independent developers put into making Windows 10 (…

> Classic Shell is no longer maintained. It works okay-ish today, but while it was still maintained, its developers had to regularly fix it, because it does rely on undocumented APIs. It's a pretty safe bet that it won't work in the 2020 release, and I'm not aware of any good alternative. First of all they did continue it on a fork, but in any case, what's this obsession with recent commits? Lack of recent commits me…

I have to use Windows on a few machines, so yes, I have "actually used Classic Shell", and have occasionally hit some of the bugs. I dug into one of them but it's been so long since I've written any Windows-related code that I can't really do anything useful anymore :(.
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