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U.S. Student Debt in ‘Serious Delinquency’ Tops $166B

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#32
This is why keep pushing my daughter towards a trade school.

(Once you become immune to eye-rolling life gets easier.)

There's a lot of companies with unfilled skilled blue collar jobs. And despite self-driving trucks, semi drivers can make some serious money.

And HVAC projected job growth is 14% over the next 10 years. Thank you Global Warming!

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There is so much waste in universities: bloated admin/it staff , libraries filled with journals/magazines that no one reads, tenure system that doesn't allow you to downsize departments that have no students. Tuition can be reduced, however there is no incentive to do it since students can easily get loans.

Right. It’s become a government backed bubble. Somehow we need to pop it softly. I’m sympathetic to all the current student debt holders and providing relief to them but if we do that without putting and end to these guaranteed loans we’re just perpetuating (and making worse) the problem.

Doing something like making community college and trade school level degrees free and leaving everything else to private loans sorta makes sense. (Arguably 80% of university graduates really didn’t need their degree for their job.)

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There is so much waste in universities: bloated admin/it staff , libraries filled with journals/magazines that no one reads, tenure system that doesn't allow you to downsize departments that have no students. Tuition can be reduced, however there is no incentive to do it since students can easily get loans.

Tenure does not prevent a department from being downsized. At least not any college I've worked at. The trend is to use untenured labor and I believe over half of all classes are taught using untenured labor.

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This will be highly unpopular but it seems to me like a solution is to start doing some amount of payroll withholding for those with student loan debt similar to the way social security/Medicare is handled. It doesn’t have to be a huge amount, but enough to ensure repayment. Government forces us to “save for retirement” via social security, yet being debt-free is a far greater advantage in retirement than the retirement income supplement of social security. If people had no debt, they’d be better positioned to cover their own retirement. Paying off $100k student loan debt “now” is far more valuable to a person than social security later. Essentially what I would propose is this: your social security withholdings go towards student loans while you have student loans, once the loans are repaid, social security contributions resume. But, it’s a house of cards because those with excessive unpaid student loans are most likely the ones financially irresponsible enough to require social security for their retirement. There is also the other issue that your social security payments you make today are paying current benefits rather than your own benefits later. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme, so in practice my idea wouldn’t work as it might collapse the social security scheme; but adding federal student loan payments to payroll withholdings would potentially solve the problem. Also stricter caps on student loans sounds like good policy. There is no good reason anyone should have $100k+ in undergraduate student loans. Taking out loans to get an expensive degree from a school like NYU ought to not be allowed. Loans should be a means to assist someone in getting education — not as a means for someone to get the most expensive education possible. Practically bottomless student loans has absolutely contributed to the extraordinary inflation in higher education: college costs have risen faster than even healthcare costs, no small part of which can be blamed upon the availability of loans.

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#38

Education is important. Access to education is important. But our current system of giving out student loans with no regard to if the student will ever have a realistic ability to repay borders on predatory. If we can't do anything to solve that portion of the problem, we should at least restrict the mandatory fees that are tacked on for non instructional purposes. No student should have to pay for decades to prop up…

Education is important, but I sometimes wonder if there is a whole lot of correlation does not equal causation going on here. What I mean is, statistics say those with a four year or higher degree earn more than those without. A correlation. But you might say that those who are predisposed with the aptitude for higher earning power are more likely to pursue a higher degree in the first place.

It's this thought, that makes me wonder if government backed higher education is worth the money. I'm inclined to support government backed higher education, but I do think this is an important question to ask when determining specific policy. I'd think we'd only want to pay for STEM degrees where students were able to maintain a certain GPA.

With that said, yes, the system is predatory. It's disgusting the amount of interest I paid for ten years to these loan sharks.

Re: U.S. Student Debt in ‘Serious Delinquency’ Tops $166B

#39

Education is important. Access to education is important. But our current system of giving out student loans with no regard to if the student will ever have a realistic ability to repay borders on predatory. If we can't do anything to solve that portion of the problem, we should at least restrict the mandatory fees that are tacked on for non instructional purposes. No student should have to pay for decades to prop up…

If we are being honest, sports and minor non-instructional costs are minor vs the cost of small classrooms and professors. We need to vastly cut costs and sports and non-instructional costs wont move the needle.

For many schools, sports are a profit center. Texas A&M for example, makes several hundred million per year from their sports. Schools like NYU with their insane tuition doesn’t even have big sports, yet it’s one of the most expensive schools around.

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There is so much waste in universities: bloated admin/it staff , libraries filled with journals/magazines that no one reads, tenure system that doesn't allow you to downsize departments that have no students. Tuition can be reduced, however there is no incentive to do it since students can easily get loans.

Right. It’s become a government backed bubble. Somehow we need to pop it softly. I’m sympathetic to all the current student debt holders and providing relief to them but if we do that without putting and end to these guaranteed loans we’re just perpetuating (and making worse) the problem. Doing something like making community college and trade school level degrees free and leaving everything else to private loans sor…

Why do you think community college and trade school level degrees should be free? It sounds like you think they're less wasteful somehow?
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