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> They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. I get that for ordinary users it's a dealbreaker, but I never understood this complaint about the Windows 8 touch UI from power users or developers. It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a cla…
> I never understood this complaint about the Windows 8 touch UI from power users or developers. It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a classic UI that lets you forget the new Windows 8 UI ever existed. That statement shows the complete misrepresentation of what happened and the size of the players: - Microsoft is a company worth 750 billion USD. There are around 1.5 bi…
The single biggest change I hope for, is Windows not forcing my computer to reboot for an update. It's kind of acceptable forcing me to update when I reboot myself, but rebooting for me is just a no-go. Especially as it just gets stuck at my BIOS password and keeps the computer on all night. I know I won't get that wish fulfilled.
I don't know if this is perhaps different for the Enterprise edition? I use the Enterprise edition, and while it asks me if I want to reboot to update from time to time, I don't remember it ever forcing a reboot - which is just as well, as I tend to go weeks without rebooting (I just put it to sleep when I'm done, so I can resume the next day). BTW, if anyone reading this thinks Enterprise edition is only available f…
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Right, Arch is the perfect distro for someone who wants their system to leave them alone and stop changing things.
I used to think this way too until I tried it. Honestly not as bad as I was told.
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> They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. I get that for ordinary users it's a dealbreaker, but I never understood this complaint about the Windows 8 touch UI from power users or developers. It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a cla…
Let's start with Windows 8. The unintuitive horizontal scrolling was because of touch users. Jump to Windows 10 in its present state ruled by Nadella. The anti keyboard campaign is accelerating. The new control panel aka settings menu is designed for touch and mouse only. With classic Windows, shortcuts were discoverable through ordinary usage. Now, you've got to Google em. Not only that, context menus used to have u…
You know how long it took me to setup my Linux laptop to make it usable though? About a week, to fix all the little annoyances and things that were just missing. I actually had to build some of my own little utilities with things like `xdotools` or whatever, to get it to be feature complete in my eyes. And I'm positive that many here will disagree but Macs are not even able to made usable IMO (especially for heavy keyboard users), so I typically only touch my Macs for testing websites and compiling iOS apps.
Meanwhile, in about 5 hours last night I setup a brand new Windows gaming box for my nieces with offline, non-Microsoft account logins, "ads" (aka suggested apps) removed from the start menu, tons of games from Steam and of course Fortnite from Epic games... It took me about 20 minutes of just going through each and every setting in Settings to turn off all the features I didn't want. A couple other things I wanted to turn off were in the Group Policy Editor. This is the same way I setup all of my Windows dev and entertainment boxes and things always run fine after initial setup. (In my house we have like 6 Windows boxes, 2 Linux stations, a Mac Pro, a Macbook Pro and quite a few iDevices. The OS that gives me the least amount of annoyance is Windows, by far. Linux gives the most freedom, but with some annoyance. I find Macs and iDevices the most limiting and annoying of all unless you compare them to Android. We do have some old dead Android devices lying around, but nobody uses them anymore because they stopped receiving updates. We did get one Chromebook for my wife instead of a new laptop and it's pretty nice for remoting into her Windows desktop or for visiting the world of Android apps from time to time. The battery life is amazing too...an Acer Chromebook 14.)
However, I don't think you could be more wrong about the usability of Windows, particularly with the keyboard. Windows is more easily navigable with just a keyboard than any other desktop OS that I've seen. The macOS has the worst keyboard navigation. Most Linux desktops including my favorite (XFCE) follow after the Windows style of keyboard navigation, albeit with more bugs than actual Windows.
> The anti keyboard campaign is accelerating. ... For instance, keyboard right-click, plus R used to activate the property menu.
That's just because you have 2 menu items that both use the _R_ keyboard accelerator. You can easily remove one of them with the registry editor or change its shortcut. (The second menu item you're complaining about is the "Compress to .zip" command, which you should remove and replace with 7-zip anyway IMO.)
> The network interface is fine, but slow and will stop working if you turn it on/off often. ... Bluetooth connection has become a try your luck activity.
Haven't seen this. I use a laptop at work and I often switch off between wifi and lan. I use bluetooth headphones all day, no problems...
> Finally, the new control panel is just frustrating and confusing for simple tasks.
I find it vastly superior to other systems. The search works better than it does on my Macs where Apple just highlights all the matches in the System Preferences instead of giving a normal search result. I can generally find everything I need from the main Settings app whereas with my Manjaro system, I have about 20 different control panels for different things.
The single biggest change I hope for, is Windows not forcing my computer to reboot for an update. It's kind of acceptable forcing me to update when I reboot myself, but rebooting for me is just a no-go. Especially as it just gets stuck at my BIOS password and keeps the computer on all night. I know I won't get that wish fulfilled.
I don't know if this is perhaps different for the Enterprise edition? I use the Enterprise edition, and while it asks me if I want to reboot to update from time to time, I don't remember it ever forcing a reboot - which is just as well, as I tend to go weeks without rebooting (I just put it to sleep when I'm done, so I can resume the next day). BTW, if anyone reading this thinks Enterprise edition is only available f…
The biggest problem with Microsoft is them not sticking to their strength. I was an avid fanboy till Windows 7. This was an OS that could cater to power users- keyboard shortcuts, powershell (shitty console but anyway). They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. Linux is mature now,…
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> They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. I get that for ordinary users it's a dealbreaker, but I never understood this complaint about the Windows 8 touch UI from power users or developers. It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a cla…
Classic Shell is no longer maintained. It works okay-ish today, but while it was still maintained, its developers had to regularly fix it, because it does rely on undocumented APIs. It's a pretty safe bet that it won't work in the 2020 release, and I'm not aware of any good alternative. A lot of Linux (and Windows) users don't realize it, but the amount of work that independent developers put into making Windows 10 (…
First of all they did continue it on a fork, but in any case, what's this obsession with recent commits? Lack of recent commits means broken software? Have you actually used Classic Shell? I've been using it for years on Windows 8 and 10 and it's been working fine on both despite the lack of maintenance. In my mind it didn't need any.
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> It takes maybe 5 minutes to download and install Classic Shell and suddenly you have a classic UI 1. Where would a user even learn about a "Classic Shell"? 2. Why would a power user install a third-party thing that radically changes the way the system looks? And one whose development stopped in 2017? 3. And, in general, why? It's the OS' job to provide interfaces for power users.
1. Google old start menu . It's literally the top result. 2/3. Sigh. I didn't realize setting up Classic Shell was so much harder than setting up a Linux box for a power user, I'm sorry. Power users definitely should be the ones to expect their OSes to be perfect for them out of the box, and it's definitely nuts to expect they'd be the ones to customize their systems.
Power users are the ones who actually get tired of customising shit because nothing has sane configuration by default.
I have better uses for my time and brain power.
The biggest problem with Microsoft is them not sticking to their strength. I was an avid fanboy till Windows 7. This was an OS that could cater to power users- keyboard shortcuts, powershell (shitty console but anyway). They started running after the touch segment and deliberately removed the keyboard interface. They didn't get the app-buyers and the keyboard people (like me) probably left them. Linux is mature now,…
Phones and tablets were (and are) a huge market. Everyone chased that market.
> deliberately removed the keyboard interface
Never happened (or I don't understand what you're saying.) Pressing the Windows key on your keyboard and typing the name of the program you want to launch works exactly the same in Windows 7, 8, and 10.
> I had a Windows specific app Idea that I had to drop because Windows was unusable for me.
I'm sorry. You can switch from Windows 7 to Linux, but not from Windows 7 to Windows 8, because the differences between Windows 7 and 8 are too great? Are you being serious?