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This is not necessarily true. iOS, for example, does not allow for key logging but will happily allow Facebook to grab whatever you have on your clipboard, which it does of course because it's Facebook.
I think I've spotted iOS clearing the clipboard if you task-switch after pasting the contents into a password input field. Which is presumably precisely to defend against this kind of data theft.
Don’t Get Clever with Login Forms
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#463The worst offender I have seen in the wild is treasurydirect.gov. The password must be click in on an online keyboard, and they do not allow password managers to enter the passwords. Screenshot here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TreasuryDirect
There is a South African bank (absa.co.za) that not only uses the online keyboard thing, but requires you to type in a randomized subset of your password. For example. if your password is "Password" it would display something like 2 5 7 and you are need to type "awr" (the 2nd, 5th and 7th letters of the password) to log in.
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#464Phrasal verbs, in general, are difficult to speakers of languages that don't have them, especially when the same verb has different meanings depending on the added preposition. Someone with a basic/intermediate level of English may have difficulty telling between "sign in" and "sign up". In my own case, I have a good level of English so I know what they mean, but "sign in" and "sign up" always take 2 or 3 seconds for me to disambiguate, while "login" and "register" (or similar) are instantaneuous.
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#465There's been a recent tendency to split login forms into username/password over two screens as mentioned in this article. It's maddening. Password managers can't deal with this, unsurprisingly. I don't see the benefit this provides for anyone.
That is quite useful however with some federated auth flows, where you just need the email to see where to send them for the actual auth (e.g. Office365 and SAML login), otherwise you'd needlessly be entering your password. I also much prefer it to the previous way e.g. Office365 worked, where once you'd tabbed away from the email box, they'd detect you needed to be redirected and send you off, whilst most people had…
This can't be a large majority. I only ever hear complaints.
Whats wrong with the suggested way (Harvest example) of having both on the same screen and letting the user choose
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#466Another rule: make all fields pastable. If you have a form I can't fill in with my password manager, I can copy and paste my username and password with my password manager. Unless... you make those fields so I can't paste into them. Then, I have to open two windows side by side and manually type in my 16 digit password with caps, numbers, and symbols. Tedious.
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#467Tip from a non-native English speaker: if you want your website to be more friendly to an international audience, don't use the terms "sign in" and "sign up", use more distinct terms (like "login" and "register") instead. Phrasal verbs, in general, are difficult to speakers of languages that don't have them, especially when the same verb has different meanings depending on the added preposition. Someone with a basic/…
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There are also Chrome extensions that will attempt to remove any such restrictions automatically, like https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dont-fuck-with-pas...
Sadly doesn't work with one of my banks (it detects the ctrl key on keydown)
Trivia: Shift-Ins actually predates Ctrl-V :-)
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#470The worst offender I have seen in the wild is treasurydirect.gov. The password must be click in on an online keyboard, and they do not allow password managers to enter the passwords. Screenshot here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TreasuryDirect
I'm guessing that was implemented to neuter keyloggers, but I do wonder how easy it would be to circumvent.