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What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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From the article, referencing a study where researchers got a bunch of people to quit Facebook and then studied what happened: “They consumed much less news, and were thus less aware of events but also less polarised in their views about them than those still on the network. Leaving Facebook boosted self-reported happiness and reduced feelings of depression and anxiety.” ^^ this is why I’d like to see it broken up or…

This isn't so much a problem with Facebook, but just gated communities in general. Heavy moderation by participants push out opposing view points until all that's left are echo chambers. The downside of this trend is the vast majority of people don't tend to realize they are in an echo chamber and take what they are interneting as gospel because people tend to trust the wisdom of the masses.. they just don't realize…

Heavy moderation is why people don’t hate each other even more. When I started using Twitter I followed loads of people who disagreed with me politically who I thought were intelligent. Lots of them are, and thoughtful but it just made it really obvious that there’s still plenty of support for people and views I consider odious. Non-filtered news consumption leads to a more accurate picture of reality in which huge portions of the population hate each other and there’s an excellent chance of widespread violence at the level of the US in the 1960’s again.

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

>> “People have completely forgotten that in 1972 we had over nineteen hundred domestic bombings in the United States.” — Max Noel, FBI (ret.)

> Recently, I had my head torn off by a book: Bryan Burrough’s Days of Rage, about the 1970s underground. It’s the most important book I’ve read in a year. So I did a series of running tweetstorms about it, and Clark asked me if he could collect them for posterity. I’ve edited them slightly for editorial coherence.

> Days of Rage is important, because this stuff is forgotten and it shouldn’t be. The 1970s underground wasn’t small. It was hundreds of people becoming urban guerrillas. Bombing buildings: the Pentagon, the Capitol, courthouses, restaurants, corporations. Robbing banks. Assassinating police. People really thought that revolution was imminent, and thought violence would bring it about.

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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The world would rejoice that a service that does less good than it does harm is gone. We would be less polarized. We would be less narcissistic. We would be less depressed. We would also we able to pickup our phone and call any body we truly wished to stay connected to. And we would not have an avg of 1500 friends

It would be a cause for celebration.

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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It would be much harder to promote new products and businesses through ads.

> It would be much harder to promote new products and businesses through ads.

I've been lead to believe that the economy and all of human civilization would collapse if that happened. /s

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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post #9

It would be much harder to promote new products and businesses through ads.

Would it, or would it just be cheaper and more effective? Internet is still not a majority of advertiser spending, Facebook does not have a majority of Internet advertising, either.

I think it'd be cheaper and less effective. The benefit for advertisers on Facebook is that the rate of click throughs is significantly higher than the more shotgun-style advertising that was in use before Facebook and Google started managing so many ads across the web.

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but FB has irreplaceable targeting in the short term. Want to provide software to teachers or plumbers at scale? FB is really the only place online you can do this.

That seems like quite a claim. I'm sure I can reach plumbers via trade magazines, trade schools, trade shows, displays in plumbing supply shops, etc. In fact all of those sound at least as effective as targeting them on Facebook.

I think you're heavily discounting the amount if actual labor involved in finding and getting into those magazines, schools, shows, and shops...

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like quite a claim. I'm sure I can reach plumbers via trade magazines, trade schools, trade shows, displays in plumbing supply shops, etc. In fact all of those sound at least as effective as targeting them on Facebook.

I think you're heavily discounting the amount if actual labor involved in finding and getting into those magazines, schools, shows, and shops...

Well, if you have no connections in the world of plumbing, why did you start writing software for plumbers?

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't so much a problem with Facebook, but just gated communities in general. Heavy moderation by participants push out opposing view points until all that's left are echo chambers. The downside of this trend is the vast majority of people don't tend to realize they are in an echo chamber and take what they are interneting as gospel because people tend to trust the wisdom of the masses.. they just don't realize…

Heavy moderation is why people don’t hate each other even more. When I started using Twitter I followed loads of people who disagreed with me politically who I thought were intelligent. Lots of them are, and thoughtful but it just made it really obvious that there’s still plenty of support for people and views I consider odious. Non-filtered news consumption leads to a more accurate picture of reality in which huge p…

For anyone else curious, just found an article on this: http://time.com/4501670/bombings-of-america-burrough/

Re: What would happen if Facebook were turned off?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't so much a problem with Facebook, but just gated communities in general. Heavy moderation by participants push out opposing view points until all that's left are echo chambers. The downside of this trend is the vast majority of people don't tend to realize they are in an echo chamber and take what they are interneting as gospel because people tend to trust the wisdom of the masses.. they just don't realize…

Heavy moderation is why people don’t hate each other even more. When I started using Twitter I followed loads of people who disagreed with me politically who I thought were intelligent. Lots of them are, and thoughtful but it just made it really obvious that there’s still plenty of support for people and views I consider odious. Non-filtered news consumption leads to a more accurate picture of reality in which huge p…

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