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“I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid California income tax

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Post by pandaman »

cptskippy wrote: post #140
pandaman wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typhus is not flu, you need to have the city in a very bad shape to get such an outbreak. Has nothing to do with medicine.

Typhus is a disease spread by organisms like fleas. Fleas can exist in people and animals (e.g. rats). The epidemic in LA is among the homeless and those who have been exposed to them (e.g. city workers). The problem is one primarily of policy and not due to infrastructure being in disrepair. Stating that a typhus outbreak is due to crumbling infrastructure just outright false.

Typhus is spread by rats and other animals, it is transferred to humans through parasite bites. Rats infestation is an infrastructure issue, at least for me. It could be a policy issue for native Californians though. Should we clear garbage off the streets? Outside California this is not a political question.

Re: “I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid California income tax

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Post by kthejoker2 »

octonion wrote: post #40
commandlinefan wrote: post #20

Yeah, the big fear here in Texas is that they're all going to move down here with their California liberal sensibilities and vote in a state income tax here, too.

Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world, so perhaps that would be a good thing.

False, thanks for not perpetuating misinformation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/04/1...

Re: “I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid California income tax

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Post by masonic »

dragonwriter wrote: post #139
masonic wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the 10th lowest tax bill on median priced home of the same 51 jurisdictions You don't give a source, so it's unclear whether that figure accounts for Prop 13 effects or local added parcel taxes. The average of existing tax bills (with embedded Prop 13 reductions) is meaningless for comparing to new-property taxes in another state.

> You don't give a source, so it's unclear whether that figure accounts for Prop 13 effects Since Prop 13 both sets the maximum rate of property tax and sets the procedural requirements for increasing any tax in California, everything about property tax in California is “Prop 13 effects.” I suspect what you mean is “effects of the Prop 13 limits on annual assessment increases”. > The average of existing tax bills (wi…

Four paragraphs later, there is still no source given for the figures.

Anyway...

"... if the alternative is staying in place in CA, property taxes with the Prop 13 assessment limit are absolutely the right comparison..."

No, because even if staying within California, moving generally means your new residence starts at "full retail" tax basis... so that is the proper comparison. (Had Prop 5 passed, it would be very different.)

Re: “I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid California income tax

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Post by scottlocklin »

cptskippy wrote: post #133
pandaman wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the OP, but the ongoing typhus epidemic in LA would be near the head of my list.

Are medical outbreaks something that's typically considered part of infrastructure? At least in GA that's something the CDC would manage. I considered infrastructure to be roads, sewers, water mains, electrical, etc... not necessarily a medical outbreak.

Funny typhus and hepatitis A outbreaks and rivers of human waste from the tent cities only seem to happen in California.

Re: “I’m moving out of state”: employees are trying to avoid California income tax

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Post by mandevil »

skh wrote: post #81
ohithereyou wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the grandparent poster, but a 13% increase in Federal income tax would apply to everyone in the country, regardless of where they live, and therefore would be fair. Punishing people who don't live in your state (only commute there for work and have an actual, bona fide residence elsewhere) is not fair.

Income gets taxed on where you earn it. It’s been that way for a very long time. This applies to everyone. Don’t see how it’s unfair. I’m certain OP knew this when taking the contract to work in California.

It famously applies to sportsball players as well: if you are an NBA player you pay Canadian taxes on the game check for all games in Toronto, and California taxes on your games in LA/SAC/OAK (and there are extra jock taxes and the like, but we don't need to go into that). A typical NBA player will file over 20 different tax returns for a single season.

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Post by lakisy »

panzagl wrote: post #53
skh wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does a 13% tax to California bother you if a 13 percentage point increase in tax to some other entity doesn’t? Is it dislike of California? Dislike of state taxes? This reminds me of an experiment I read in - I think - Nudge . A random group of people were given the scenario of being at a store and about to buy a box of chocolate for $10. Just before they purchase it they find out they can buy it at a store a few…

He doesn't live in California so would see no benefit from the CA tax, while he theoretically would from a Fed increase.

He may not live in California but he WORKS in California.
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