Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript? • Hacker News Board

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by tzury » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:12 AM UTC

http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt

    This file is part of the Deployment Toolkit.  It provides functions for web
    pages to detect the presence of a JRE, install the latest JRE, and easily run
    applets or Web Start programs.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by drivebyacct2 » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:33 AM UTC

It's not really a secret is it? Considering there is a link to a very readable source file...

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by aschobel » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:33 AM UTC

I wonder how much that costs them, must be a fortune.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by andre3k1 » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:38 AM UTC

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

Because that chunk of stuff is from http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt And apparently Oracle slaps "ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" on everything.

Facebook will gladly throw in a copyright notice if it means avoiding a costly lawsuit: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9193538/Oracle_Google...

Oracle are not very nice when it comes to Java licensing. Just ask Apache.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by daveman692 » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:52 AM UTC

As a number of other people have pointed out, we (I'm an engineer at Facebook) use http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt which Oracle has released under the BSD licensed. One of the requirements of the license is that their copyright header is preserved when distributing the source code.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by nikcub » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 5:59 AM UTC

ruby_on_rails wrote: post #10

Most likely the same reason why they are going after Google as the new owner of java, because up until they owned sun microsystems, it was in their best interest to support open source. In the aftermath of purchasing Sun, they think its best to become a patent troll. I hope we see some more karmic justice and Google rips Oracle a new one.

that has nothing to do with Facebook using BSD licensed javascript from Oracle

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by nikcub » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 6:03 AM UTC

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

Because that chunk of stuff is from http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt And apparently Oracle slaps "ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" on everything.

Outside of the line about proprietary/confidential, it is a standard 3-clause (no ad) BSD license they are using - so I don't know why they need that line in there.

That is probably the only interesting part of this story.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by patrickaljord » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 6:14 AM UTC

andre3k1 wrote: post #14

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

Because that chunk of stuff is from http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt And apparently Oracle slaps "ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" on everything.

Facebook will gladly throw in a copyright notice if it means avoiding a costly lawsuit: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9193538/Oracle_Google... Oracle are not very nice when it comes to Java licensing. Just ask Apache.

This has nothing to do with Java licensing, it's a piece of javascript to detect whether you have Java installed or not.

Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 6:16 AM UTC

nikcub wrote: post #17

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

Because that chunk of stuff is from http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt And apparently Oracle slaps "ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" on everything.

Outside of the line about proprietary/confidential, it is a standard 3-clause (no ad) BSD license they are using - so I don't know why they need that line in there. That is probably the only interesting part of this story.

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Re: Why is there an Oracle copyright in the middle of a Facebook javascript?

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Post by nakkiel » Thu, Nov 18, 2010, 6:47 AM UTC

nikcub wrote: post #17

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #2

Because that chunk of stuff is from http://www.java.com/js/deployJava.txt And apparently Oracle slaps "ORACLE PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL" on everything.

Outside of the line about proprietary/confidential, it is a standard 3-clause (no ad) BSD license they are using - so I don't know why they need that line in there. That is probably the only interesting part of this story.

What is also interesting (or is that scary?) is that some people reading HN can't tell a BSD license from a custom proprietary copyright notice.