Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
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Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#2I know in the technical sense, calling it Amazons rejection is accurate, but in reality this was a power play of a different kind from the people of the city.
While I've not found a consistent stance among people I talked to almost everyone found it at least troubling how Amazon could wield this kind of power. The people who opposed it were vocal and diligent. I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon.
More importantly, while cities compete for companies or industries all the time, it seems this really highlighted the kind of leverage a big company can hold over even a huge metropolis.
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#3I know in the technical sense, calling it Amazons rejection is accurate, but in reality this was a power play of a different kind from the people of the city. While I've not found a consistent stance among people I talked to almost everyone found it at least troubling how Amazon could wield this kind of power. The people who opposed it were vocal and diligent. I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon. More importantly, while ci…
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Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#4Have they answered where do the 25,000 jobs go now?
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#5Agree with the article. The economists can argue all day about how the equation will work out to be a net profit to NYC regardless of subsidies, but that seems short-sighted. Every decision can not be reduced to a profit/loss question.
One company should not have bargaining power over an entire city, and they certainly should not get special economic treatment over others. It points to and perpetuates an unhealthy power imbalance.
At the end of the day, every US company (and Amazon in particular) got where they are in no small part thanks to all the infrastructure & standing in the world that the government provides. Using that when its convenient and forgetting about it later is just not ethical. And I suspect the 25K jobs are going to stay somewhere in the US anyways, creating about the same tax income even if its spread out.
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#6I know in the technical sense, calling it Amazons rejection is accurate, but in reality this was a power play of a different kind from the people of the city. While I've not found a consistent stance among people I talked to almost everyone found it at least troubling how Amazon could wield this kind of power. The people who opposed it were vocal and diligent. I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon. More importantly, while ci…
> I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon.
Over 60% of NYC residents who had an opinion supported Amazon. Over 70% of Long Island residents supported them. This is a victory for some well organised political activists but to cast it as a victory for NYC is a bit much.
At the very least it makes NYC a less likely competitor to the Bay Area.
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/02/am...
> The Bay Area: NYC is no longer such a fierce competitor at the macro level, with the potential to become the new center of gravity for the tech world. The Bay Area can breathe a bit more easily now, at least as long as clustering remains the name of the game. Yet this one is double-edged, because it also means the Bay Area has less incentive to solve its rather pressing problems and dysfunctions.
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1096137477188976646?s=21
> The most prominent voices of opposition to the Amazon deal have been local pols in Queens, but that doesn't align with public opinion. The Quinnipiac poll showed strongest support for the subsidy package in Queens (55-39) and the Bronx (54-37).
https://poll.qu.edu/new-york-city/release-detail?ReleaseID=2...
> Support for the Amazon relocation in general ranges from 51 - 29 percent in Manhattan to 64 - 21 percent in The Bronx.
> Queens voters support 55 - 39 percent the $3 billion incentive package to attract Amazon.
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#7Have they answered where do the 25,000 jobs go now?
Virginia, Nashville and to a lesser extent everywhere they’re hiring.
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#8Have they answered where do the 25,000 jobs go now?
They said that the search for a HQ2 will not continue and instead they are focusing on increasing presence in NY, VA, and I think TN. Not sure if the increased presence is 25,000 jobs worth.
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#9I know in the technical sense, calling it Amazons rejection is accurate, but in reality this was a power play of a different kind from the people of the city. While I've not found a consistent stance among people I talked to almost everyone found it at least troubling how Amazon could wield this kind of power. The people who opposed it were vocal and diligent. I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon. More importantly, while ci…
I was looking forward to those jobs tbh. Like the majority of nyers...
Re: Did New York Lose Anything with Amazon’s Rejection? It’s Complicated
#10I know in the technical sense, calling it Amazons rejection is accurate, but in reality this was a power play of a different kind from the people of the city. While I've not found a consistent stance among people I talked to almost everyone found it at least troubling how Amazon could wield this kind of power. The people who opposed it were vocal and diligent. I'd argue NYC rejected Amazon. More importantly, while ci…
This whole thing seems fishy to me.
The Governor of NY and Mayor of NYC were in alignment (highly unusual) and are profoundly powerful people.
Amazon doesn’t typically give a hoot about activist opinion. And honestly, the professional activists in NY give zero shits about Queens and would have been bought off with something else. This was a thing that was going to happen.