This is neat. For anyone wondering why not just record the moves on your phone: Digital devices are not allowed at over-the-board tournament games.
Not true*
FIDE (and anything under FIDE rules) does certify some purpose built digital recording devices, they are hilariously expensive and hilariously crap but they exist.
Because the scoresheet you bring home from a tournament won't be in the format this tool expects? So you'd still have to rewrite it onto the "crosswords" sheet before OCR-ing it? (In which case one extra step gets automated away thanks to the tool... but at the cost of another one taking its place). Unless I'm missing something
The idea is you'd write down the moves during the game on the Scoresheet. Ideally, if people don't think it's too big of a change, we could just have tournament directors hand them out. Otherwise, print, bring to game, scan and throw away
It's been a while since I've played in a tournament, but I think I'd like your score sheets better than the traditional. I've been in situations where I tried to analyze a game I played a while ago, and some of the moves were illegible. Your grid forces legibility, which is something that you probably had to compromise on for the OCR, with an unexpected benefit. Really nice product and congrats on the launch!
This is neat. For anyone wondering why not just record the moves on your phone: Digital devices are not allowed at over-the-board tournament games.
Not true* FIDE (and anything under FIDE rules) does certify some purpose built digital recording devices, they are hilariously expensive and hilariously crap but they exist. * https://www.monroi.com/products/personal-chess-manager.html
I really like Chess Score Pad for iOS, but it's not approved for tournament use.
I like ChessNoteR almost as much, and it's USCF-approved. Not FIDE-approved yet, but they're working on it.
This is neat. For anyone wondering why not just record the moves on your phone: Digital devices are not allowed at over-the-board tournament games.
Not true* FIDE (and anything under FIDE rules) does certify some purpose built digital recording devices, they are hilariously expensive and hilariously crap but they exist. * https://www.monroi.com/products/personal-chess-manager.html
For the curious, the FIDE requirements for electronic score sheets are in this document [1].
The USCF certification requirements are here [2]. This also includes a list of USCF certified electronic scoresheets.
This is definitely a real problem for some people - a chess organizer friend of mine recently spent 4-5 hours entering games from a scoresheet into the computer every night. This solution is pretty nice - but it is possible to imagine that such a solution might work directly on horribly written scoresheets, using handwriting recognition + the kind of constraints mentioned by indy7500 - that would be pretty amazing from both a technical, and usefulness, standpoint.
This is great! Sadly it does not seem to be open-source. I have wanted something like this for other data entry tasks like: tracking expenses or tracking body weight. I enjoy working with pen and paper much more than typing on a Phone or PC. Just give me a template I can print, let me write the data to it, and have it scanned. Is anyone aware of a product (perferably open-source) that lets me do that?
I think I'd be willing to make it open source? I'll talk to a person that worked with me on it.
Scannable templates using some third party ML/AI service like tensorflow could be a neat business to develop.
> Do not indicate checks, mates or promotions at all, i.e. leave out the "+," "#," or "=Q". Some of your screenshots include the +, is this accurate? If you don't include the =Q you can't encode all games?
I took the screenshot with the "+" before I realized it'd be easier for now to ignore the "+". This is my fault for being lazy, I'll change it. I looked at a database of lichess games (40,000) to convince myself that non-Queen promotions were worth ignoring for the beta. If promoting to a different piece is clearly the better move, I could run a Stockfish check anytime a promotion move is made to assume the player ch…
Note that promotions do fit in 5 characters if you omit the equal sign, for example "e8Q" (or "dxe1N")
This is definitely a real problem for some people - a chess organizer friend of mine recently spent 4-5 hours entering games from a scoresheet into the computer every night. This solution is pretty nice - but it is possible to imagine that such a solution might work directly on horribly written scoresheets, using handwriting recognition + the kind of constraints mentioned by indy7500 - that would be pretty amazing fr…
(I am OP) I thought about doing it that way but found that handwriting recognition was pretty weak as of now and wanted to try something solid. The reason is, usually, handwriting recognition would take into account the following characters (it doesn't recognize individual characters at a time, it looks at a database of handwritten whole words). That would be the ideal if done well, of course.
This is great! Sadly it does not seem to be open-source. I have wanted something like this for other data entry tasks like: tracking expenses or tracking body weight. I enjoy working with pen and paper much more than typing on a Phone or PC. Just give me a template I can print, let me write the data to it, and have it scanned. Is anyone aware of a product (perferably open-source) that lets me do that?
I think I'd be willing to make it open source? I'll talk to a person that worked with me on it.
I'm not sure if you posted it anywhere, but would you mind sharing what technology you used for this? I would be very interested in contributing if it became open source.