Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by skh » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

endofcapital wrote: post #46

The big tech giants seem to be A/B testing different ways of opposing and working with the government. Sooner or later these tests are going to start showing they have more power than the government, and they will start ignoring laws because they are irrelevant to increasing whatever metric is important this quarter. This may have already happened, it's really hard to say.

My current pet idea is that the Electoral College ought to be replaced with the CEOs of the Fortune 500 companies. That way we could do away with the facade that presidential elections currently create.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by DigiMortal » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

So what about the 25k jobs? I do notice uptick in hiring, AWS and engineering in the Denver area. But that could just be business as usual

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by barry-cotter » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

forkandwait wrote: post #14

Of all the places, why did NYC offer Amazon subsidies? NYC actually has too many good jobs for the amount of space... I am also proud of my cantankerous fellow New Yorkers who fought this.

Stupid as the subsidies were your attitude is vile. We have a technology for increasing housing, they’re called apartments. New York does not lack space, it lacks enough housing. If this kind of crap goes on New York will get as bad as California where every municipality wants to build offices and nowhere wants to build housing.

This delight in pulling up the ladder after you and making it harder for people to get jobs is odious.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by infocollector » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

NYC had brains enough to do the right thing. Why invite a monopoly that should not exist, and give it subsidies? (unless of course the governance is broken - and can not make the right decisions)

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by hindsightRegret » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:02 PM UTC

gk1 wrote: post #37

thecybernerd wrote: post #20

So is this a boon for Northern Virginia or will something similar happen there?

This is the first time I’m seeing Nashville mentioned, so I wonder if they’ll benefit somehow from this.

They'll never get 25k workers to relocate to Nashville.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by josefresco » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #9

I wonder how many Amazon employees sold their nice new condos in the last couple weeks. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18503434

I wonder how many Queens residents sold their apartments/condos before this news broke? Talk about timing. I know of one person who was drooling at this unexpected windfall and will now be very... sad.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by mmilenko » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

endofcapital wrote: post #46

The big tech giants seem to be A/B testing different ways of opposing and working with the government. Sooner or later these tests are going to start showing they have more power than the government, and they will start ignoring laws because they are irrelevant to increasing whatever metric is important this quarter. This may have already happened, it's really hard to say.

Doesn't what just happened indicate the opposite?

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by kodablah » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

I think this is fantastic for both as they don't deserve each other. Residents don't want a company getting breaks and Amazon wants breaks. Amazon has plenty of other places where the residents value them more and NYC has plenty of other companies to fill the coffers/employment.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

legitster wrote: post #59

A bit disappointed. The narrative really turned on Amazon during this process. But I feel like every organization shops around for deals - Amazon was the first company to do it transparently and openly tell cities what they have or are missing. There was a real opportunity to bring tech industry to heartland cities. In the end all they proved was this kind of stuff should just stay in the backroom. And good paying te…

I would't feel too bad for Amazon. They are the ones that made it a big spectacle and dragged it out for far longer than necessary or wise.

Re: Amazon Pulls Out of Planned New York City Campus

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Post by CydeWeys » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:03 PM UTC

dacur wrote: post #39

Yabood wrote: post #11

This could be an interesting development for the DC metro area.

>We do not intend to re-open the HQ2 search at this time. We will proceed as planned in Northern Virginia and Nashville, and we will continue to hire and grow across our 17 corporate offices and tech hubs in the U.S. and Canada.

It's not clear to me how this comment is relevant. Northern Virginia is the DC area, and if this cancellation means that all of the jobs that were previously slated to go to NYC will instead go to the DC area office, then that will have huge effects on DC.