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TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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How does it compare to Sequel Pro ( https://www.sequelpro.com/ ) that would make me want to pay?

I find it generally nicer than Sequel Pro (better UI, quicker database switching). Exporting and importing are much better in Sequel Pro. I do those in SP and then switch back to TP for editing. It's also got a dark mode which looks quite good.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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IANAL but I really don’t see anything problematic here, it’s all standard boilerplate digitally distributed software stuff. Maybe he thought the ownership clause was a little too broad? https://tableplus.io/blog/2018/01/license-agreement.html

My wife is an attorney and if there is ONE thing she wishes she could make everyone understand it's that there is no such thing as a "standard" or "boilerplate" legal document.

Well, that's also hardly in her best interests now is it? Not really a partial judge (hah).

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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That is a little concerning. They are explicitly refusing to say the software is not a trojan. It would make me think twice about using it.

I'd say it's a protection in case of their servers being breached and you downloading a malicious version of the application. No court on earth would support them if it attempted to exfiltrate all of your data.

AKA the CCleaner clause. Did Piriform get sued over that incident?

Although as TablePlus worded it, it comes across like they want to be able to intentionally add malware to their software and get away with it. I'm no lawyer so I'm not sure how feasible it would be to add a "due to circumstances outside our control" subclause of some kind.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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How does it compare to Sequel Pro ( https://www.sequelpro.com/ ) that would make me want to pay?

I've used both for some time. TablePlus has a beautiful UI and looks better than Sequel Pro for sure, but I find Sequel Pro to be more capable and easier to use. Redis support of TablePlus isn't too great either (searching on keys doesn't work), so I need to use another tool for Redis management anyway.

What tool are you using for Redis Management? Is there one that you'd recommend?

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL but I really don’t see anything problematic here, it’s all standard boilerplate digitally distributed software stuff. Maybe he thought the ownership clause was a little too broad? https://tableplus.io/blog/2018/01/license-agreement.html

My wife is an attorney and if there is ONE thing she wishes she could make everyone understand it's that there is no such thing as a "standard" or "boilerplate" legal document.

Ofcourse there is; multiple times have I gotten documents via-via that were identical to docs I received before and the lawyers billed hours for that copy/paste work making it sound, like your wife, that it is custom and a lot of work. It can be Ofcourse, but most, even complex company documents I have signed (and that's 100s) are indeed boilerplate and the lawyers are scammers trying to bill hours for 'writing' them. If they would say '$1000 - boilerplate document (c) OurFirm' that would be fine, but making out it took days to make while it is exactly boilerplate/template with changed names is what all lawyers (at least the Corp ones we deal with) do (and they also spend > 1 week delivering these templates because 'so much work') but it is a scam imho. Akin to me selling a software application and charging all buyers 1000 hours and deliver it after 2 months instead of a license and an immediate download.

Obviously ymmv and I might have just encountered crappy ones, but 100s of signed legal docs in my career from at least 30 different lawyers show me that actually 95% is boilerplate of the docs we get.

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