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TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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This piece of software is superb. It's lightning fast, the UI is so easy to use, in terms of productivity it's super nice (small things like "copy as an insert statement"). It has been my daily driver for months now, but only for personal projects. I tried to get a license at work, but our lawyer said their EULA is a no-go :(

>It's lightning fast I think this depends on the database rather than the software itself.

I've just compared TablePlus to PGAdmin (the new web one), on a fast query which returns 1000 rows. The responsiveness of TP is really noticable

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Can you elaborate on what it was about the EULA that was a problem?

> TablePlus may, in its sole discretion, at any time and for any or no reason, suspend or terminate this Agreement with or without prior notice. > Without limiting the foregoing, neither TablePlus nor any TablePlus’s provider makes any representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied: (i) as to the operation or availability of the Application, or the information, content, and materials or products included…

That is a little concerning. They are explicitly refusing to say the software is not a trojan.

It would make me think twice about using it.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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This piece of software is superb. It's lightning fast, the UI is so easy to use, in terms of productivity it's super nice (small things like "copy as an insert statement"). It has been my daily driver for months now, but only for personal projects. I tried to get a license at work, but our lawyer said their EULA is a no-go :(

>It's lightning fast I think this depends on the database rather than the software itself.

I'm not talking about database queries, I'm talking about working within the UI. If you compare it to Navicat or any of the Java-based apps, TablePlus is really quite fast.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> TablePlus may, in its sole discretion, at any time and for any or no reason, suspend or terminate this Agreement with or without prior notice. > Without limiting the foregoing, neither TablePlus nor any TablePlus’s provider makes any representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied: (i) as to the operation or availability of the Application, or the information, content, and materials or products included…

That is a little concerning. They are explicitly refusing to say the software is not a trojan. It would make me think twice about using it.

I'd say it's a protection in case of their servers being breached and you downloading a malicious version of the application.

No court on earth would support them if it attempted to exfiltrate all of your data.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Can you elaborate on what it was about the EULA that was a problem?

IANAL but I really don’t see anything problematic here, it’s all standard boilerplate digitally distributed software stuff. Maybe he thought the ownership clause was a little too broad? https://tableplus.io/blog/2018/01/license-agreement.html

> neither TablePlus nor any TablePlus’s provider makes any representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied: ... that the Application, its servers, the content, or e-mails sent from or on behalf of TablePlus are free of viruses, scripts, trojan horses, worms, malware, timebombs or other harmful components.

Is that really standard boilerplate? I don't recall seeing a clause like that before.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on what it was about the EULA that was a problem?

IANAL but I really don’t see anything problematic here, it’s all standard boilerplate digitally distributed software stuff. Maybe he thought the ownership clause was a little too broad? https://tableplus.io/blog/2018/01/license-agreement.html

My wife is an attorney and if there is ONE thing she wishes she could make everyone understand it's that there is no such thing as a "standard" or "boilerplate" legal document.

Re: TablePlus – Native GUI tool for relational databases (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on what it was about the EULA that was a problem?

> TablePlus may, in its sole discretion, at any time and for any or no reason, suspend or terminate this Agreement with or without prior notice. > Without limiting the foregoing, neither TablePlus nor any TablePlus’s provider makes any representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied: (i) as to the operation or availability of the Application, or the information, content, and materials or products included…

Wow. Is that common? It seems a little unusual to explicitly call these things out. But I can't say a typically read a lot of EULAs, either, so I don't know.
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