tl;dr: because Google massively invades your privacy to know whether you're a bot or not before you tick the box, also the CAPTCHA is a bit more sophisticated than just showing a checkbox to click on.
Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#542Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Then, the images started getting grainier as they apparently wanted to improve their recognition in different conditions. I'd always assumed that was noise carefully tuned to throw off one machine learning model or another that was being used to beat the captcha, sort of like this: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/2/16597276/google-ai-image-... I think it might be the same when they switch to other types of objects…
>I'd always assumed that was noise carefully tuned to throw off one machine learning model or another that was being used to beat the captcha I was thinking it was trying to dirty up the image just like the lenses on cameras get dirty. What happens to the image recognition when there's water spots, dirt, mud, etc on the lens that keeps parts of the image obscured?
The images get a lot grainier when you browse over VPN or fail the first round. So I suspect it's meant to actually throw off captcha-solvers.
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What is it in particular about GPhotos you find incomparable?
Do you have any alternatives? Something that works on most platforms and allows you to automatically backup photos as they are taken.
No, I don't, I was just curious -- I used to use Picasa and it's facial recognition was far superior to anything else I could find.
Flickr app has auto upload from Android at least, I'd guess Flickr as Google photos closest competitor?
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#544Judging by the amount of spam i receive from a reCaptcha v2 protected contact form, I'm positive bots can tick the box or circumvent it.
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#545Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#546Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…
I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…
Signing up for facebook, after a short period, they'll lock your account due to suspicious activity, even if you have done nothing (maybe that's suspicous?), and demand a phone number or a photo.
If you sign up and provide a phone number, they'll just demand a photo. Twice. Giving them the same photo seems to work though, and leave your account in peace...
They never accused me of being a robot though.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#547Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes just checking the checkbox is enough. Sometimes you need to identify cars and store fronts. I think the better Google knows who you are, the more likely just the checkbox is going to be enough. If you go incognito, you have to train their neural nets, if you give up your privacy, you get in for free. The clever part from Google's perspective is that you have to trade one of these things to Google in order t…
There are many services out there that can solve Google's recaptcha for fraction's of a penny. When someone puts one up, they can make things more expensive, and perhaps sometimes uneconomical, but in general, the cost is low (~$2.00 for 1,000 recaptchas). When someone uses a recaptcha, they should think about why they are doing so. It's one thing to use it to save a business model, but it's another to use it to prot…
> Governments need to release their data, freely
Totally agree. Fortunately the Dutch government is trying to make as much data open as they reasonably can, and regularly organise events to encourage developers to use their open APIs.
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#548Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm doubtful about any good solution for having computers decide whether we are sufficiently human.
> I'm doubtful about any good solution for having computers decide whether we are sufficiently human. Two questions: - Couldn't a computer just temporarily hire a human to prove there is a human involved? - Why are we using recaptcha or verifying humanity anyway? I understand stopping spam, scams, and fraud, but scraping already public data doesn't present significant harm.
Yeah, it shouldn't be used to limit public data. The main use is to prevent spammers from spamming fora or registering thousands of throwaway email addresses.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#549Isn't this a typical Quora answer? Full of filler and shitty hard-to-verify details that provide no value to the answer ("the language is encrypted twice", what the hell), and very little effort on answering the actual question (what is the purpose of CAPTCHA). And the community rules try to block people from writing firm "you're full of shit"-like answers, even though every other answer of Quora is full of lies like…
> And the community rules try to block people from writing firm "you're full of shit"
That's what you get when you value niceness over competence. Just look at any typical discussion of "Linus' rants" here on HN - people (or, I must clarify, americans) seem to care more about whether you hurt someone's feelings rather than if you're right or not.
I don't know a better environment for professional bullshitters to thrive.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#550Slightly related, but I have a fun conspiracy to share: I'm convinced that part of the reason Google released headless Chrome is as a honeypot for bot authors to use. The idea is that instead of going through the effort of fingerprinting and identifying new bot software, release something that bot authors will use instead that you have a capability to detect. Somewhere inside of headless Chrome, there's one or more s…
Interesting idea :) I don't think spambots are currently using Chromium or even running JavaScript. Using simple spamfilters in JavaScript still works fine on my setups.
Does it mean that you're breaking the experience for users who deliberately disable js by default? Can I ask you not to do that? Modern web is unusable if you let js on any webpage