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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Those really grainy images, they always seemed like they had to have noise added on purpose? It was like really badly processed film grain, but if the images were enlargements then wouldn't they be pixelated? Stuff you get now often requires cultural information, like "sidewalk" isn't a cross-cultural name, I'd guess almost everyone knows it, but meh. What classes as a store, is a lawyers office a store? Also, I seem…

Remember this belongs to Google https://patents.google.com/patent/US9407661B2/en

Are you sure? On the page it says:

    Current Assignee: Juniper Networks Inc
Was it owned by Google at some point in the past?

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I don't understand this. When I get the "I am not a Robot" box, in 95% percent of all cases I only have to click the checkmark. That's it. A robot certainly can do that, too.

In the remaining 5% I get a Captcha that is impossible to solve, e.g. it states "Please mark all cars" and once I've marked all cars it states "Please also mark all traffic signs" and when I've marked all traffic signs it states "Please also mark the following traffic signs" and so on, for as long as I bother to try.

I have never encountered a Google Chaptcha that worked in any other way, either it works trivially with one click or never.

My conclusion has always been that Google Captcha are simply broken for anyone who runs an ad-blocker, and I don't don't bother with services for which it doesn't work. Problem solved.

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I had my “wow” this place might not be that good experience with Quora yesterday when I was trying to google evaluate AWS workmail. Quite a lot of the “extremely good looking” answers on Quora straight up said that you couldn’t do e-mail in AWS. These were answers from after workmail was a thing by the way. So I started looking at other Quora answers on stuff I wouldn’t normally need an answer for, and it’s frighteni…

My experience with Quora has been that more often than not the older the answer, the better it is. I find that answers in history, are often better than in tech. It always seems like the community that initially built Quora, stopped building it further several years ago and now it's floating out in space Wile E. Coyote style.

I was going to say the same. I don't use Quora at the moment but when I did, I'd be more interested in subjective questions (history, geographical - ie. travel etc., and more philosophical questions) rather than objective and technical questions (and answers) as I've found many of them to be simply untrue.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #478

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The fire hydrant one always annoyed me - in many countries stand-up fire hydrants are nonexistent or at least look very different. I guess they're banking on people having seen enough American movies/TV shows?

It's not like the word 'fire hydrant' exists in those countries either, so some kind of knowledge/learning/look-up is involved anyway, no?

In the UK we call them fire hydrants and they’re typically placed underground with a small metal cover in the middle of the road and a sign on the pavement (sidewalk for Americans) saying where it is.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #478

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The fire hydrant one always annoyed me - in many countries stand-up fire hydrants are nonexistent or at least look very different. I guess they're banking on people having seen enough American movies/TV shows?

It's not like the word 'fire hydrant' exists in those countries either, so some kind of knowledge/learning/look-up is involved anyway, no?

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The salesman is a robot as well.

I wonder if in the far future we'll have two androids pretending to be human and trying to fool each other at the same time, only for them to realize that they are both, in fact, robots

Which is a proper strategy to train robots to be human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_network

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #214

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Not just for Tor. I use Firefox with a few basic extensions (Privacy badger, uBlock, Google Container) yet every time I am presented with having to pick out traffic lights over and over and over again. I usually have about 5 or 6 "challenges" before I give up and use another site. My timezone has not changed, my IP address and rough location has not changed, my screensize has not changed, my broadband speed has not c…

for google, you are the enemy. not even bots. captcha is google master blow against ad blockers. a regular user, who they have all the info, give them dollars per ad impression. You, with your doNotTrack (ha! that was a joke) and privacy addons makes them only cents per ad impressions. you are google's enemy. remember this when you get stuck in captcha hell (and consequently censored from most sites until changing de…

Yup. It's insufferable. Even on sites where I'm a paying customer, I have to go through captcha garbage.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #214

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for google, you are the enemy. not even bots. captcha is google master blow against ad blockers. a regular user, who they have all the info, give them dollars per ad impression. You, with your doNotTrack (ha! that was a joke) and privacy addons makes them only cents per ad impressions. you are google's enemy. remember this when you get stuck in captcha hell (and consequently censored from most sites until changing de…

IDK. I run Firefox on many OSes, everywhere with uMatrix that blocks known trackers, ad networks and such. I don't see most ads (if any). I rarely see the "I am not a robot" box, and hasn't seen image recognition tasks for a long-long time.

They're on a lot of sites that I frequent.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Because Google can extract value from captchas, it makes world-class captchas and bot detection AI available to every webmaster for free. I don't know what that level of service would otherwise cost, but it almost certainly wouldn't be affordable for low-traffic blogs and the like, which would end up vulnerable using weaker captchas or trying to roll their own. Everywhere else the cost would just get passed on to use…

It's the same with email for example. I've helped a friend roll out his own server because he doesn't want Google reading his emails. Fair enough, but you won't get Google's spam filter or availability either, which your privacy was paying for.

I do this. Funnily enough one of the reasons I did it was because Google’s spam filters gave me too many false positives and my gmail account attracted enough spam that sorting through manually was a pain.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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As a user who's constantly clicking on the crosswalk or storefront images you can't help but to think that you're essentially working for free training Google's machine learning models by providing them with supervised data points.

Who says it's for training? ;)
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