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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I feel a sense of dread whenever I see this box. Is it going to let me through, or am I going to spend the next few minutes futilely clicking signs and lights, only to give up and leave the site?

And if you have a vision issue like me and you try to use the audio version you will often get "Your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. For more details visit our help page" and be unable to continue.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #311

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Good thing the definition of white supremacist is commonly agreed upon and noncontroversial and absolutely isnt subject to definition creep :)

What isn't subject to definition creep? Murder now, for some, includes abortion. Censorship now includes, for some, private companies removing bad actors from their private systems. Come on, that's lazy to dismiss it that way when society literally changes all the time.

Offtopic, but regarding abortion:

Whether or not abortion is a murder is not about definition of "murder" it is about definition of "human being".

There's no doubt that abortion involves killing a living creature, the whole pro-choice vs pro-life debate is basically about one simple question: "is fetus a human being?". If you answer that with "yes", then every abortion becomes a murder, plain and simple.

This also explains why there will never be a compromise between two crowds: it is logically impossible to compromise on yes/no questions.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…

Just throwing this out there. Have you considered that maybe you are a robot?

Well if this isn't just redolent of "The Difference":

https://qntm.org/difference

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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It only catches obvious bots. I write stuff that gets past ReCaptcha all the time. I'm just one guy and I am not even that good at this.

Plenty of other people get past it too: https://medium.com/@jsoverson/bypassing-captchas-with-headle...

I am pretty sure Google is just doing an 80/20 rule here, or even a 99/1 rule since there are so many simple bots that are easy to detect.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #7

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

This is a horrible argument. What gave Google the right to be the moral authority of the internet (we, we did)? Even if 99% of exits from tor nodes are malicious, Google should have absolutely no capability to throttle this traffic. Unless you claim most of the traffic in tor are from bots, your argument doesn't make any sense. Captchas serve 2 purposes: slowing down bots, annoying humans. By putting captcha to tor exits, Google not only slows down miniscule amount of bots, but also annoys human traffic (good or bad). It is by no means a "good" thing that Google is capable of this.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…

If everyone keeps telling you you're a robot...

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

Interesting. Not sure if it's a gag or for some sort of handwriting/stroke analysis. Or it could be a variation on the M&M contract clause (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/) to try to verify that they actually read the contract.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #345

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Reasonable. Just look at its name.

Interesting use of "its" but it is entirely possible that a robot has a preferred set of gender pronouns, and you just mislabeled them. Many of our assumptions support the biopatriarchy.

biopatriarchy? Thats a new one for me today!

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

#390

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Just throwing this out there. Have you considered that maybe you are a robot?

I know this comment is in jest, but please don't joke on Hacker News as you would on Reddit. Posts like this add little informational content, spawn a thread of joke responses, and take time away from hundreds of people who are here to read high signal commentary. Sorry to be so profoundly un-fun. edit: I'm being downvoted, but consider the comment chain this has generated.

> I know this comment is in jest, but please don't joke on Hacker News as you would on Reddit. Posts like this add little informational content, spawn a thread of joke responses, and take time away from hundreds of people who are here to read high signal commentary.

Here's a challenge:

Create a bot capable of generating and posting content like the above that's attributed to "zxcvbn4038."

The bot doesn't have to be able to get through spam filters or register itself. It just has to take the current state of a forum thread as (part of its) input and output a) content for a post and b) a position in the tree to insert it.

The human bot-author can then try to insert the content into the thread at the given position. If the post doesn't get detected as spam and can avoid downvotes, the bot wins.

The prize is the sheer joy of contradicting what I'm assuming is an HN mod:

> edit: I'm being downvoted, but consider the comment chain this has generated.

Edit: added rule about avoiding downvotes to retain "high signal commentary."

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