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Isn't there a good OSS alternative for ReCaptcha?
The Turing test. Have one of your ops chat with them to see if they’re a bot.
Cheaper: have a robot chat with them ...
Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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> Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Do you have any data on this?
An excellent, wise, and cogent question! In fact I do have data. You can find it here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-trouble-with-tor/ > On the other hand, anonymity is also something that provides value to online attackers. Based on data across the CloudFlare network, 94% of requests that we see across the Tor network are per se malicious. That doesn’t mean they are visiting controversial content, but instead that…
Cloudflare's documented experience aligns closely with mine; I've been limiting or blocking TOR ever since 2008 because over 90% of the traffic was malicious bots, and the majority of the remainder was malicious humans.
And when you have malicious traffic swimming in an anonymous pool, there's no practical alternative but to block all of it.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#343This explains everything except why Google itself won't let humans through even when they've selected the right things a million times. All this sophistication and it's still too stupid to do its basic job of knowing the right answer which couldn't be more than a few equality checks away.
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You might be interested what https://hcaptcha.com is doing.
Wow thanks for this, I added myself to the waiting list. If you use my referral URL I get a bump in the queue: https://hcaptcha.com/?r=29d830be7540
Can we get a hcaptcha pyramid scheme going, https://hCaptcha.com/?r=d6064d5f22b7 ...?
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…
Just throwing this out there. Have you considered that maybe you are a robot?
Reasonable. Just look at its name.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
#346As a user who's constantly clicking on the crosswalk or storefront images you can't help but to think that you're essentially working for free training Google's machine learning models by providing them with supervised data points.
One solution is to remove Google out of your life as best as possible. Personally I now use... - iCloud.com instead of Gmail - DDG for search though I do have to !g like 20 to 30% of the time for things like driving directions (from X point to Y point), local movie times nearby and flights. I still use - YouTube - Google Maps some as its great for getting distance between X and Y - Google News (is there a better subs…
What is it in particular about GPhotos you find incomparable?
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I don't really understand the case where you'd use this. First, it seems tacky scrounging for peanuts from the users' captcha work. Or it's like a product/services website showing Adsense ads. It's a cheapening message to send. Second, since you make more money from more captcha volume, you're incentivized to maximize your use of captcha which is at odds with every complaint in this comments section about captcha. Mo…
Is it somehow less tacky to give that value away to Google for free? Sites can set the difficulty level necessary for their application. Some are under continual targeted attack, others are mainly keeping out rogue automated spambots from their comments section. The user is typically getting a free service, a better site experience due to less bot traffic, or both. I think sharing the value of their work with the web…
> Is it somehow less tacky to give that value away to Google for free?
Yes, mainly because we're talking about fractions of cents. Also, it's not for free; the website and its users get a good anti-abuse measure in return.
There's a big difference between something that cannot make money and something that makes pennies for the site. But, to be fair, 99.9% of users aren't going to notice the difference in captcha branding either way unlike my example of a banner ad on a retail site.
My main reaction is that the UX incentive to minimize user exposure to captchas seems to work against the primary pull of using hcaptcha in the first place.
Though one site I can think of that has a captcha behind every action (every post) is 4chan. Maybe you can get them on hcaptcha one day. It would at least help you test your tagging system against vandalism. :)
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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That's what ReCaptcha always was... it was originally a known and another unsure text blurb from scanned books/text documents. Now it's street signs etc.
Helping scan all the world's books as part of a plan to make them freely available to all is much easier to get behind than tuning map objects for their self driving cars. Particularly when most books that were scanned never, ever showed up on Google books.
> Particularly when most books that were scanned never, ever showed up on Google books.
If one looks at the history of Google Books one can see that they started with big ambitions, but hit copyright in quite intensive ways. That also changed their approach to other projects. Clearing all rights internationally isn't easy.
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Those images are infuriating! Click all boxes with traffic lights. Ok, well, this one box just barely contains the bottom right corner of the traffic light. Click. Nope, that little corner didn't count. Try again. Ok, well on this one, the right side of the traffic light is only barely over the line, so I won't click it. Nope, that sliver of the light mattered this time. MF!
I actually have a few screenshots where the task was impossible since the data was mislabeled. The latest example was "click all of the buses". It wouldn't let me continue because I wouldn't select the fire truck. My naive assumption is that you should click the "refresh" button in these cases.
I've recently gotten caught in one of these, where it was "click all of the bicycles" and after a few clicks (it was one of those which fade out to present a new picture) the only "bicycle" left was a bicycle-shaped street decoration. It wouldn't let me proceed unless I clicked on something, so I had to refresh to get a new task.
Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?
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they stopped using the text because some forum campaign that promoted typing cursewords instead of the unkown word. they probably started showing cursewords on the rendered search highligths on google books. there was a decent write up from a whitehat showing the damage, but I can't find it
Cite? I can't imagine some forum has enough traffic to meaningfully screw up their data, and they don't tell you which of the two words is the unknown word, so you're just going to fail a lot doing that.
More importantly, it's trivial to filter out everyone putting in the same swear.