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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I'm getting closer to doing that. Lately, I check the box, and if I'm presented with images, I leave. I have also trained myself to wait a few seconds before clicking the box, which seems to help assert my humanity.

Wait til it's standing between you and your bank account.

Yeah I don't imagine anyone will actually do this if they actually care about what's on the other side.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Every time I fill one of these out I get the picture test, and I answer them correctly...but am asked 3-5 times to identify which blocks contain a school bus or stop light. It's very annoying.

Yes - I feel at this point that our labor is simply being used to help provide training data for Google's algorithms.

This is not how it is supposed to be.

In a parallel universe of fluffy niceness we willingly provide our help and in that way we get all those old books converted to ASCII and available for us to read online. Our efforts are for the good of mankind. Similarly with the newer challenges, we help the maps be up to date and again this is for the good of mankind and those needing help getting around.

Clearly this doesn't work in an era where the 'don't be evil' mantra is long forgotten and people only see Google as some advertiser friendly capitalist monopolist beast.

Google need to work on their relationship with their customers, to be a benevolent dictatorship of sorts. They are lousy at customer service and there are other pain points that they are ignorant to. I don't see how this helps.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

If Google wants to do that, that’s their prerogative. What pisses me off is when a bank or similar “secure” type of service forces me to train Google’s ML models in order to access my stuff. I didn’t agree to provide unpaid labor to Google.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

#135

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I'm getting closer to doing that. Lately, I check the box, and if I'm presented with images, I leave. I have also trained myself to wait a few seconds before clicking the box, which seems to help assert my humanity.

Wait til it's standing between you and your bank account.

Phone banking hasn’t died yet, luckily.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Totally anecdotal: Back when I was using a vpn and would see this recaptcha more often, I found that the recaptcha would often declare me a bot (and give me a second chance) if I clicked the boxes too quickly. Like, the storefronts would load and I'd immediately click+click+click+click then submit. But if I slowed down and staggered my clicks, it would realize I'm just another inefficient human who needs time to move…

Right. I think I have seen similar behavior for mouse movement as well. Not sure, but I think moving your mouse around randomly helps as well. The timing of picking the images, as you say, helps. As does the order you pick them in.

Of course, I think the biggest thing is your browser's fingerprint. If you are using a lot of privacy blocking addons, etc. you are going to be spending a lot of time looking at captchas.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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You've now forced spammers to purchase webcams. And write code or whatever to make realistic mouse movements. This is expensive. Whatever they're doing likely isn't worth it anymore.

fake-users-as-a-service business op? I can see it being possible - racks of "robot arms" that move mice based on whatever criteria is needed (in this case, reCaptcha). It works for 3D printing, as well as device testing - so in theory, this could be done too...

Have the ‘AI’ solved the I’m not a robot and kick the street view stuff to a human.

It’s always going to be an arms race I guess.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I feel a sense of dread whenever I see this box. Is it going to let me through, or am I going to spend the next few minutes futilely clicking signs and lights, only to give up and leave the site?

just preemtively say no and leave the site. this is just another tracking vector for google and it should be discouraged. i'm generally against this type of gating, where the people doing the right thing get punished disproportionately (even small slices of time add up to wasting thousands of human-years over the population) just to combat the tiny number of bad actors. target the bad actors directly. it's the same f…

Sadly, the parcel tracking functionality of the Royal Mail's site here in the UK uses it, so I have little choice but to go through this rigmarole a few times a week.

On the one hand, fuck Google for wanting another vector with which to track me, on the other hand, why can't it remember that I proved to it that I'm human (allegedly) two days ago?

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Glad I’m not the only one. I thought something was wrong with my brain. Or that I might be a robot.

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