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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by duxup »

Kalium wrote: post #7
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #2

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

Google used to HATE my VPN, couldn't do anything on Google through it without a dozen damn pics to choose from.

My VPN must have gotten white listed (or cracked down on some of their traffic patterns) because that stopped.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by Freak_NL »

nomel wrote: post #63
teilo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those images are infuriating! Click all boxes with traffic lights. Ok, well, this one box just barely contains the bottom right corner of the traffic light. Click. Nope, that little corner didn't count. Try again. Ok, well on this one, the right side of the traffic light is only barely over the line, so I won't click it. Nope, that sliver of the light mattered this time. MF!

I actually have a few screenshots where the task was impossible since the data was mislabeled. The latest example was "click all of the buses". It wouldn't let me continue because I wouldn't select the fire truck. My naive assumption is that you should click the "refresh" button in these cases.

Just click whatever you suspect is needed to pass. Don't go above and beyond trying to give the actual right answer; you're just feeding some proprietary database owned by Google. QA for it is their problem.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by enriquto »

Kalium wrote: post #7
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #2

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

> Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, (...)

This does not agree with my experience. I browse without cookies and severely limited javascript (using umatrix), and I also encounter the myriad of ridiculous inconveniences that the OP was referring to. On the good side, however, the web is much faster and generally less annoying.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by Freak_NL »

etiam wrote: post #29
kojackst wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It goes like this: "so you want to be anonymous and won't let us track every single thing you do? ok, then you'll help us train our AI so we can improve our self-driving cars and improve how Google Maps extracts information from Street View images"

I always figured the main point was behavioral profiling on mouse and keystroke trajectories.

They seem to keep adding categories though, which makes me suspect that it is all about ML training. Recently it's chimneys and bridges (although that one may be older).

It's always annoying though.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by [deleted] »

teilo wrote: post #6
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #2

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

Those images are infuriating! Click all boxes with traffic lights. Ok, well, this one box just barely contains the bottom right corner of the traffic light. Click. Nope, that little corner didn't count. Try again. Ok, well on this one, the right side of the traffic light is only barely over the line, so I won't click it. Nope, that sliver of the light mattered this time. MF!

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

enriquto wrote: post #73
Kalium wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

> Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, (...) This does not agree with my experience. I browse without cookies and severely limited javascript (using umatrix), and I also encounter the myriad of ridiculous inconveniences that the OP was referring to. On the good side, however, the web is much faster a…

> I browse without cookies and severely limited javascript (using umatrix), and I also encounter the myriad of ridiculous inconveniences that the OP was referring to.

Isn't this also something that many bots do (don't run javascript and don't have realistic cookies)? It seems like just another instance of reducing your distance from the "bot" cluster in agent-space.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Post by fock »

Kalium wrote: post #7
djflutt3rshy wrote: post #2

The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

This might surprise you, but it actually has to do with what traffic coming out of TOR looks like. Well in excess of 90% of traffic coming out of TOR is spam, bots, malicious, or some combination! Google isn't going out of their way to punish you for trying to protect your privacy. They're trying to stop unwanted traffic. By unfortunate happenstance, you appear to be disguising yourself in the exact same way a shocki…

I have exactly the same experience without using Tor, living in Germany...

I personally don't care too much about the hassle, but I really don't like the idea that I'm basically playing Artificial "Intelligence"/doing clickworking for the not so community oriented efforts of Google.

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