The whole “diversity industry” (and it is a huge industry) is based on a lie... that “diversity” improves a company’s performance. The research on this is so shaky with so much empirical evidence to the contrary, and everyone knows it, which is why companies are trying to do nothing more than “lip service.”
Silicon Valley Is Using Trade Secrets to Hide Its Race Problem
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#12I don't really see how diversity is tech's problem any more than it's hospitals' problem. If you want more engineers from more underrepresented groups you need to educate them. If there aren't enough doctors of group X it's not the fault of hospitals. It's the fault of society for not facilitating more of them going into medicine. It seems to me that the case for tech workers is analogous.
100% agree. Look at the diversity of CS courses at top universities. If minorities and females are not represented there then how can you expect companies who hire top talent to have them?
Male and female representation is also a function of domain interest. Last time I checked there were not that many women applications in brick layering.
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#13maybe I am clueless but how can anonymous data turned into the government be trade secret protectable?
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#14More like journalism is using race to hide its jealousy problem. Tech now has the power, influence, and compensation that journalist used to have, and they're mad about it. Most of these companies go way out of their way to recruit minorities and women. If you believe that not having enough of them in tech companies is a problem, you're going to have to look further down the funnel, to college major choices and hones…
Would you be willing to share your ideas on what can be done at the beginning of the pipeline?
Good primary and secondary education systems and affordable colleges.
Re: Silicon Valley Is Using Trade Secrets to Hide Its Race Problem
#15More like journalism is using race to hide its jealousy problem. Tech now has the power, influence, and compensation that journalist used to have, and they're mad about it. Most of these companies go way out of their way to recruit minorities and women. If you believe that not having enough of them in tech companies is a problem, you're going to have to look further down the funnel, to college major choices and hones…
Would you be willing to share your ideas on what can be done at the beginning of the pipeline?
Step one (and really the only step) is that people have to want to become developers/scientists, sit in front of a computer all day, read and learn, all the time.
There are a million different reasons someone may not want to do that or may be encouraged against it, but you'd have to look at every individual and culture to find out why. It may not even turn out to be a bad thing. What if someone wants to become a chef or athlete instead, is that a problem?
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#16For the millionth time. The distribution of populations not lining up with the general population distributions is not indicative of discrimination. Not to mention that the "anti-brown people" narrative absolutely dissolves in the face of the massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians. To say that Silicon Valley has a "race problem" and only include the employment statistics as they relate to the populati…
The article cites data from the government on percentages of black, hispanic, and women in tech in Silicon Valley vs those same populations in tech nationwide. You would expect the percentages to be statistically equal.
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#17If lack of diversity isn't a problem, why aren't these companies open with their figures? Why go to such extents? There's also research to suggest women and minorities are underpaid relative to their male, white counterparts, shouldn't companies fix that?
Is it a crazy idea the reason is that the figures themselves are irrelevant?
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#18I wonder why so many teachers are women? How about nurses? Where's the equality?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you be willing to share your ideas on what can be done at the beginning of the pipeline?
Step one (and really the only step) is that people have to want to become developers/scientists, sit in front of a computer all day, read and learn, all the time. There are a million different reasons someone may not want to do that or may be encouraged against it, but you'd have to look at every individual and culture to find out why. It may not even turn out to be a bad thing. What if someone wants to become a chef…
For choosing a major and career I think step makes sense but I think that is near the end of the pipeline.
What about exposure to the field and introducing computational thinking into earlier pars of the education system? Not necessary making kids program as their first exposure, but exposing them to computational concepts (maybe start with power of twos when learning multiplication, or control-flow-logic for writing a story....).
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#20For the millionth time. The distribution of populations not lining up with the general population distributions is not indicative of discrimination. Not to mention that the "anti-brown people" narrative absolutely dissolves in the face of the massive overrepresentation of Indians and other Asians. To say that Silicon Valley has a "race problem" and only include the employment statistics as they relate to the populati…
The article cites data from the government on percentages of black, hispanic, and women in tech in Silicon Valley vs those same populations in tech nationwide. You would expect the percentages to be statistically equal.
You can also make any lie you want with statistics.