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Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#2Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#3Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
This is actually Standard Operating Procedure for Congress. You have a bunch of non-technically literate people in theory delegating the responsibility for educating them to an agency who is responsible for either rounding-up/hiring experts to educate Congress or to collate whatever required reading is necessary.
I have difficulty understanding why this type of research isn't done by Congressional research assets though, which are free of the bias towards making operating easier which the Executive isn't.
Congress has subpoena power and budget for research staff for a reason. They should use it.
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#4Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
This is actually Standard Operating Procedure for Congress. You have a bunch of non-technically literate people in theory delegating the responsibility for educating them to an agency who is responsible for either rounding-up/hiring experts to educate Congress or to collate whatever required reading is necessary. I have difficulty understanding why this type of research isn't done by Congressional research assets tho…
That assumes they want to know instead of grandstanding based on what gets the most campaign contributions/votes/highest post career jobs.
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#5Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
This is actually Standard Operating Procedure for Congress. You have a bunch of non-technically literate people in theory delegating the responsibility for educating them to an agency who is responsible for either rounding-up/hiring experts to educate Congress or to collate whatever required reading is necessary. I have difficulty understanding why this type of research isn't done by Congressional research assets tho…
Congress used to do its own research via the Office of Technology Assessment but because the results often contradicted the positions of lobbyists it was eliminated under Gingrich in the mid 1990s.
The drug side of the FDA used to have its own research labs but they were eliminated by the same congress because their results constrained and informed the scientific demands they placed on drug development trials.
It's not solely the current government that has its (or maybe somebody else's) fingers in its ears.
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#6Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19138112
The title is also misleading. The "VPN threat" they're concerned about is not the about VPN's per se, but VPN's that spy on their users. Such things are real, as was recently made clear when Apple revoked Facebook's enterprise certificate over one.
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#7Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
> Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
What kind of VPNs are you talking about? The VPNs that protect their users' traffic from spying, or the VPNs that spy on their users themselves?
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#8Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs?
> Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs? What kind of VPNs are you talking about? The VPNs that protect their users' traffic from spying, or the VPNs that spy on their users themselves?
I think the key point is the lack of clarification. VPN's that spy on their users gives credence to outright ban all VPN's, which would be of obvious benefit to the US government.
It should also be pointed out that, as a consumer, you can't prove that your VPN service isn't spying on you. Ideally, you should set up a VPN on your own server using secure defaults. Then let your less techie friends/family use it when they're on public WiFi.
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are they interested in finding justification for limiting VPNs? What kind of VPNs are you talking about? The VPNs that protect their users' traffic from spying, or the VPNs that spy on their users themselves?
I think the key point is the lack of clarification. VPN's that spy on their users gives credence to outright ban all VPN's, which would be of obvious benefit to the US government. It should also be pointed out that, as a consumer, you can't prove that your VPN service isn't spying on you. Ideally, you should set up a VPN on your own server using secure defaults. Then let your less techie friends/family use it when th…
The senators were pretty clear in their letter and in the quotes that they are concerned about VPNs that spy on their users or have exit nodes in unfriendly countries:
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/020719%20Wyden%20...
Re: Senators want potential VPN threat investigated by DHS
#10Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19138112 The title is also misleading. The "VPN threat" they're concerned about is not the about VPN's per se, but VPN's that spy on their users. Such things are real, as was recently made clear when Apple revoked Facebook's enterprise certificate over one.
if you're an analyst, and someone voluntarily lets you into their house knowing you're there to collect information about their house, are you spying? doesn't spying require some element of attempted secrecy?