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Re: Microbiome interactions shape host fitness

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Post by intense12 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

I am lactose intolerant so taking probiotics helps me. I would look at reviews and try some, for 2 months, for example. Anyway, lifestyle, food is important, i had several health issues because of stress from school etc. Diet word can sound boring but there are many ways how to prepare tasty food without some ingredients and make it more suitable for you.

Do not rely on various forum threads, you could read bad diagnosed people or diseases you should not care about.

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

Santosh83 wrote: post #7
andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

Why not yogurt/buttermilk? It was recommended to me though I dislike both and have never taken them in my life. But I suffer from chronic mouth ulcers and most doctors I consulted say it is because I avoid natural probiotics found in yogurt etc...

Yogurt covers a huge range from almost flavourless through salty all the way to sickly sweet... Surely in your case it would be worth experimenting to find one that you can tolerate?

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

I'd have thought that trying to eat a varied and balanced diet most of the time would be more beneficial to your gut microbiome than constantly artificially topping it up. The fact that people need to keep taking these things daily is evidence that they're not creating any kind of sustainable culture in there.

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Post by Aromasin »

Santosh83 wrote: post #7
andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

Why not yogurt/buttermilk? It was recommended to me though I dislike both and have never taken them in my life. But I suffer from chronic mouth ulcers and most doctors I consulted say it is because I avoid natural probiotics found in yogurt etc...

Unfortunately television advertising often has just as much an effect on doctors as it does the regular person. Despite what they often say, most supermarket yogurt/buttermilk often loses all of its probiotic bacteria during the processing of it, to make it safe to eat. Along with that, a good majority of people are lactose intolerant and only some, but not all, lactose is broken down in the fermentation process. If you have any inflammatory symptoms, like ulcers, I wouldn't personally recommend dairy sources; but there are loads of great alternatives!

My personal supermarket favourites are sauerkraut, tempeh, kimchi, miso (I put miso paste in everything...), kombucha, and pickles. Basically any fermented food really.

I recommend trying to make some of your own if you find the time. I make dosa quite often on the weekends, which is a kind of delicious Indian pancake. Also tried my hand at making Natto, which is this strange but delicious sticky soybean thing. Had Salgam in turkey which was amazing too (it's a weird salty, spicy, fermented pickle juice).

Check out Wikipedia for a reasonably complete list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fermented_foods

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

Basically, don't listen to anybody. Nutrition science reporting is among the worst on the planet, nutrition science itself seems only slightly better, and you can guess how bad nutrition bro-science is.

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Post by andy_ppp »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #16
andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

Basically, don't listen to anybody. Nutrition science reporting is among the worst on the planet, nutrition science itself seems only slightly better, and you can guess how bad nutrition bro-science is.

This is a very good point, but I will probably start taking one anyway...

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Post by whoanow »

andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

From my understanding, most probiotics are transient and pass through the system quickly. The microbiome optimizing community are now focused on prebiotics fibres like inulin and other resistant starches which feed your beneficial bacteria. And then there's always the nuclear option: FMT from a super donor.

Re: Microbiome interactions shape host fitness

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Post by option_greek »

andy_ppp wrote: post #2

I was trying to research the best probiotic to start taking (for humans not fruit flies) and I became totally bewildered... any recommendations or research from hacker news welcome!

Kefir (made at home - not the store bought one). Worked wonders for me.
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