Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
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Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#2I find this title a good example of framing. From the article:
"On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market"
So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage people to seek jobs". The connotation is a bit different.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#3I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
Valid point, but I believe people will be less inclined to support this if basic income basically means "we can give all this money for free to people and they will do about the same as people we don't give money to". It's hard to justify it.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#4I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
Besides the entire idea behind UBI is that it is needed because automation has taken / will take most of the jobs. So the headline confirms the need.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#5I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
And the report I heard said they were happier and had better mental health, which has got to be worth something on its own.
Also, only giving basic income to unemployed people doesn't give good data on what a society-wide basic income would do.
My reading of the study is "bureaucratic and narrowly defined job search advice and systems depress people but have no positive impact in them getting a job" - as you say, the connotation is quite different!
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#6I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
The wider reporting of this as "Basic Income didn't work" is worrying too.
All we can say is it didn't appear to affect the number of people that found employment, and that the supposed effect of letting people seek work without worrying that they might lose their benefits, didn't happen here.
It says nothing about the wider implications of BI in a society where there may be limited work in future.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#7I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
It's even better than that! The title the authors of the study put on their press release is: "Preliminary results of the basic income experiment: self-perceived wellbeing improved, during the first year no effects on employment"[0]
So not only does Bloomberg frame it like the doomsday prediction that everyone would turn into idlers never happened, the significant increase in mental health is just quietly sidestepped.
[0]: https://www.kela.fi/web/en/news-archive/-/asset_publisher/lN...
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#8Well that's missing the point.
Basic income is not supposed to help them find jobs that can sustain them so they no longer need it, but make it optional. Stop make it mandatory to have a well paying job to be able to afford rent and food. Which, by the way, only applies to middle and lower classes anyway because people from higher classes can live off their investments and don't have to work.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#9I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
Valid point, but I believe people will be less inclined to support this if basic income basically means "we can give all this money for free to people and they will do about the same as people we don't give money to". It's hard to justify it.
Uh, the very first sentence states that people feel better on UBI, for no loss of employment rate. So basically all the mental suffering associated with unemployment is pointless suffering.
Re: Free Money Didn’t Help People Find Jobs, Finland Says
#10I find this title a good example of framing. From the article: "On the basis of an analysis of register data on an annual level, we can say that during the first year of the experiment the recipients of a basic income were no better or worse than the control group at finding employment in the open labor market" So you can say "free money didn't help people find jobs", or you could say "free money didn't discourage pe…
Valid point, but I believe people will be less inclined to support this if basic income basically means "we can give all this money for free to people and they will do about the same as people we don't give money to". It's hard to justify it.
In the article they mention, that people from experimental group (w money) are feeling better from health perspective than people from control group (w/o money). I believe that's a strong point to justify the expenses.