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CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by mhandley »

saagarjha wrote: post #19
mhandley wrote: post #15

If you want a web server to test against, we're still running CERN 3.0 from 1994 (on early 1990s Sparc hardware too): $ nc www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk 80 HEAD /staff/m.handley/ HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.0 200 Document follows MIME-Version: 1.0 Server: CERN/3.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:46:10 GMT Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 8645 Last-Modified: Tue, 09 May 2017 12:33:04 GMT It will still speak HTTP 0.9 to you if you omit the H…

Here's what it looks like, in case you're curious: https://i.imgur.com/hOOEzGg.png

Thanks - that's great! Wonderful that (absent CSS), it still works.

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

ziftface wrote: post #20
saagarjha wrote: post #17

Ooh, I have the source code for WorldWideWeb and a binary copy of it that I had installed last year on Previous; if I remember correctly I think I got it to render Google's website (albeit in a very broken way). Maybe this might be useful? Edit: Just fired it up and it's trying to connect to cernvax.cern.ch, lol

Any chance you can put it on github?

Yes, please. That would be really cool.

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by saagarjha »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #22
ziftface wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any chance you can put it on github?

Yes, please. That would be really cool.

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I just grabbed it from here: https://www.w3.org/History/1991-WWW-NeXT/Implementation/

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by milquetoastaf »

saagarjha wrote: post #19
mhandley wrote: post #15

If you want a web server to test against, we're still running CERN 3.0 from 1994 (on early 1990s Sparc hardware too): $ nc www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk 80 HEAD /staff/m.handley/ HTTP/1.0 HTTP/1.0 200 Document follows MIME-Version: 1.0 Server: CERN/3.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:46:10 GMT Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 8645 Last-Modified: Tue, 09 May 2017 12:33:04 GMT It will still speak HTTP 0.9 to you if you omit the H…

Here's what it looks like, in case you're curious: https://i.imgur.com/hOOEzGg.png

Tell me more about your Next setup!

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by saagarjha »

milquetoastaf wrote: post #24
saagarjha wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's what it looks like, in case you're curious: https://i.imgur.com/hOOEzGg.png

Tell me more about your Next setup!

Oh, there's not much, I had originally created it for a CTF challenge of all things (https://github.com/o-o-overflow/chall-www) so it has WorldWebWeb, Bash, and a set of developer tools I managed to scrounge from the internet and from some Cocoa developers who happened to have the disk lying around. I just keep it around because it's fun to show off to people ;)

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by ngold »

aaronharnly wrote: post #8

This reminds me of the wonderful short story by Jorge Luis Borges, “Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote”. In the story, the character attempts to authentically rewrite Cervantes’ Don Quixote — not by simply copying the known text, not even by attempting to re-live Cervantes’ life and spontaneously writing the novel just as Cervantes did, but by somehow living his own 20th century life and happening onto writing a no…

Which is equally funny in that Don Quixote was trying to recreate stories he had read about outdated chivalry.

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by milquetoastaf »

saagarjha wrote: post #25
milquetoastaf wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me more about your Next setup!

Oh, there's not much, I had originally created it for a CTF challenge of all things ( https://github.com/o-o-overflow/chall-www ) so it has WorldWebWeb, Bash, and a set of developer tools I managed to scrounge from the internet and from some Cocoa developers who happened to have the disk lying around. I just keep it around because it's fun to show off to people ;)

That's so awesome. The NextCube is one of my dream machines, along with an SGI Indigo and Amiga 2000

Cool challenge too - maybe ill give it a whack

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by malkia »

I was fascinated for a while with NeXT, OpenStep, YellowBox, even had it running under Windows NT. Nowadays work in games development, and the main tool I happen to work and help with support is Radiant, which is based on QuakeEd... And QuakeEd was first released for the NeXT - https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/QuakeEd ... it also had browsers :) lol - material/textures/models/etc.

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by johnklos »

"Somehow we'll deliver the WorldWideWeb.app directly to the machine…if only we could work out how to network the machine…"

Huh? Have these kids been so caught up in GNU/Linux that they've forgotten about ifconfig and route commands? Configuring the network and mounting an NFS share should be the very easiest part of their work.

Re: CERN day 1: rebuilding the first web browser

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Post by matthewwiese »

aaronharnly wrote: post #8

This reminds me of the wonderful short story by Jorge Luis Borges, “Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote”. In the story, the character attempts to authentically rewrite Cervantes’ Don Quixote — not by simply copying the known text, not even by attempting to re-live Cervantes’ life and spontaneously writing the novel just as Cervantes did, but by somehow living his own 20th century life and happening onto writing a no…

I am so happy I decided to stumble into the comments section for this article. Your contribution of this short story by Borges is almost sublime in its essential similarity to the article of OP. I've already been a fan of Borges, but I had never heard of this piece of his before. It has positively tickled all the right literary fancies for me. Thanks much for the comment, as the story was a pleasant accoutrement to my lunch!
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