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Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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I can’t believe that Lyft doesn’t cover the Bay Area with billboards that say “Saudi Arabia beats women and owns 10% of Uber.”

“Saudi Arabia murders gay people and owns 10% of Uber.”

“Saudi Arabia crucified two people last year and owns 10% of Uber.”

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s basically up to the person running passport control that day but first of all they also need their other travel documents like their passport if they are flying internationally. They are often not allowed access to them (Not denied access in any legal sense, but their families will “look after” the documents making it hard to gain access to such documents). But if it’s the case of a foreign national returning ho…

Holy shit, I can't believe this is happening in the 21st century.

Technology only gives you gadgetry, not morals. Hasn't anyone in Silicon Valley realized this yet? They're building a huge technological cage to control the masses.

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> hosting an app on your platform is an endorsement of the content and the publisher of the app What's the context behind this claim?

It seems to me that US domestic interest in excluding foreign objectionable content mean that the DMCA safeharbor provision's days are numbered.

I don't see how that follows. OCILLA is exclusively concerned with copyright, not other content issues.

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s basically up to the person running passport control that day but first of all they also need their other travel documents like their passport if they are flying internationally. They are often not allowed access to them (Not denied access in any legal sense, but their families will “look after” the documents making it hard to gain access to such documents). But if it’s the case of a foreign national returning ho…

Holy shit, I can't believe this is happening in the 21st century.

Have you just not been paying attention or something?

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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They let you download the app... but they do NOT host the service. That's run by the Ministry of Interior.

EDIT: I had a paragraph below this saying the laws were really the problem and would still exist without the app.. but I forgot one key point: how easy it was to subvert the system before the app existed. I've removed that section. I fully support removing the app from the app stores and forcing SA to go back to the old system.

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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They let you download the app... but they do NOT host the service. That's run by the Ministry of Interior. EDIT: I had a paragraph below this saying the laws were really the problem and would still exist without the app.. but I forgot one key point: how easy it was to subvert the system before the app existed. I've removed that section. I fully support removing the app from the app stores and forcing SA to go back to…

I agree, but I don't see why we shouldn't do both. We should press both Google and Apple to remove the app, as it helps out a horrible practice. What next, a database on female genital mutilation? Both Google and Apple have removed apps for far more trivial reasons.

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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I can’t believe that Lyft doesn’t cover the Bay Area with billboards that say “Saudi Arabia beats women and owns 10% of Uber.” “Saudi Arabia murders gay people and owns 10% of Uber.” “Saudi Arabia crucified two people last year and owns 10% of Uber.”

This is a great idea. But outside of this would anyone be interested in meeting up at tech companies and protesting?

Re: Apple, Google criticised for Saudi Absher app that tracks women

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thatoneyouthrow got flagged for commenting on the hypocrisy of the tech Elite for their support of a government in Saudi Arabia that kills journalists and oppresses females with no apologies - that funds radical Islam throughout the world - in the comments of an article discussing Apple and Google distributing government oppression apps on their stores.

It is odd. The keep from being too meta, I pose this question (since it seems like a controversial stance): Should Google and Apple formally decline to host applications in their stores that actively assist governments in oppressing their population? This isn't a philosophical discussion about how we are already tracked by phones, or how Facebook knows everything. This app literally is built by the government to check women in, so they do not have freedom of travel.

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