I use vim, but not vim exclusively. Every single day, I use gedit, scite, scribes and an IDE - some times in the vi mode. There is a cognitive load to switching between many editors. That is something Emacs users who always exist in Emacs do away with.
Two weeks with Vim
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#32> I was more of an Emacs person Are there really any benefit of switching from Emacs to Vim? I was under the impression that both editors were pretty much interchangeable.
But mostly it comes down to a preference on how to do things.
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#33> I was more of an Emacs person Are there really any benefit of switching from Emacs to Vim? I was under the impression that both editors were pretty much interchangeable.
Emacs once it's up and running (in emacs server mode at least) is reasonably speedy but much more resource hungry and is an entire operating system.
To put it into perspective, I used org-mode for 6 months and loved it for that alone, but vim just works better for me as a text editor, YMMV.
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#34I am a wordstar guy, I started with CP/M... For years I enjoyed Borland products, they used Wordstar key bindings. And then one day it stopped working. I simply had to use the mouse. I was shocked. It took me years to recover. I hated it. Call me a masochist, a few years ago I tried Emacs, it was the only editor with syntax enlighting for Ruby at the time. Except it was not working, or at least it was not working for…
A few years ago I was chatting with some fellow geeks, and, as often happens, we got on to ridiculing PHP developers. Ha ha! Every PHP app is one big file! What losers. Yeah, we were having blast with these digs. But then I realized that, at least in some ways, this was an epic win. Have to go dig into some alien app? No worries; everything you need (or probably care about) is in the one big file. Need to deploy? FTP…
We'll see who's crazy!!! :)
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a lie. The true reason is purely historical. Editor where just TOO SLOW to handle big files (on DOS they often were limited to 64kb, if not less) Please note that I love "modular code", hence the notion of "sections" in my big file. To clarify: I love to edit one big file, but for other purposes I definitely need small ones. What I am basically proposing is that it is easier to edit multiple files from within a…
What about source control, concurrent team work, external libraries, etc.?
The "one big file" gets processed so that each section is kept in sync with a file.
Again: the idea is about make editing easier, it's an addition, your "one big file" is just a compound "view" over atomic files.
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#36I am a wordstar guy, I started with CP/M... For years I enjoyed Borland products, they used Wordstar key bindings. And then one day it stopped working. I simply had to use the mouse. I was shocked. It took me years to recover. I hated it. Call me a masochist, a few years ago I tried Emacs, it was the only editor with syntax enlighting for Ruby at the time. Except it was not working, or at least it was not working for…
Mice are an ergonomic nightmare. I wonder if some smart lawyers could team with some physical therapists to create some massive lawsuits- force companies to offer mouse-alternatives for all their programs or something. The law's done much worse. -- And I think I once cleaned-up some code based on the "one big file" principle...
If you can control the mouse cursor with your mind... what is the better solution to copy/cut/paste, a keyboard?
Given how long lawsuits can take, by the time a conclusion is reached, mind controled mouses will be there I guess. :)
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mice are an ergonomic nightmare. I wonder if some smart lawyers could team with some physical therapists to create some massive lawsuits- force companies to offer mouse-alternatives for all their programs or something. The law's done much worse. -- And I think I once cleaned-up some code based on the "one big file" principle...
In the lab, they are making good progress with "mind controled" cursors. If you can control the mouse cursor with your mind... what is the better solution to copy/cut/paste, a keyboard? Given how long lawsuits can take, by the time a conclusion is reached, mind controled mouses will be there I guess. :)
A normal mouse move requires a lot more bits input to get the effect of several keystrokes and so a thought-controlled mouse would require "more thought" than keystroking requires.
But if you could get broad spectrum output - text, sound, pictures and video, a direct brain interface would be fabulous...
But remember, direct-brain output sounds great but the "high bandwidth outputs" we humans have now (our hands and mouths mostly), were "designed"/evolved as outputs and anything else will be "internal data" - not necessarily useful and quite possibly not what we'd chose to output. This could be overcome but I suspect this means direct brain output will not come a smoothly as one might expect (even with the immense progress of computers
As far as lawsuits go, if you started one now, it would change a lot of behavior even before it finished. And liability for past behavior still exists whatever the present situation is.