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Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#152

It sounds like the problem is with the outsourced developers responsible for the app. It's their account which has been banned - for multiple violations of the ToS. Now, perhaps this is just over-zealous enforcement on Google's part, but it's also possible that these developers have created shady apps before, or are adding shady code to apps developed for others. The OP doesn't seem to know for certain what code is i…

ding ding ding.

It seems to be the issue to me as well.

The analogy given in the article is wrong. It has nothing to do with incriminating you for your neighbors crimes.

I do realize it sucks for Mark but if the reason is indeed that these devs are suspended, the suspension of his app is perfectly understandable.

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

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post #57

The moral of the story is, don't relies on monopolized software distribution platform.

How can you not rely on these platforms if you are building an app? You cannot expect anyone to go download .apk's manually. Users are too coddled to do anything different when downloading/installing the app. The real moral of the story is that we are just peasants on these platforms and can be washed away with a flick of a finger. In the end, become Zuck or get zucked.

How can you not rely on these platforms if you are building an app? You cannot expect anyone to go download .apk's manually. Users are too coddled to do anything different when downloading/installing the app.

Then maybe we should start educating users in the other direction. There wasn't this problem before app stores and walled gardens became common.

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm nowhere close to a lawyer and law is always a head-scratcher for me, but I'd hope that if that theory held even the slightest amount of legal water, a letter for your lawyer to their legal team might be enough to nudge them to fix your account and that'd be the end of it.

That's basically how it works. It costs you very little(couple hundred £ at most) to ask a lawyer to craft a letter to send to Google legal team saying they have to resolve the issue for you within 14 days or you will be taking them to court. And if there's one thing that's absolutely certain is that Google's law team's time is way more expensive than whatever lawyer you found to write a letter or two is going to cha…

> Google's law team's time is way more expensive than whatever lawyer you found to write a letter or two is going to charge you.

The reality of it is that the legal team is a sunken cost to the company. They hire or retain lawyers for whatever's going to happen anyway.

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

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post #40

Being shocked about this happening in 2019 in either Apple's or Google's app store represents an incredible lack of even cursory research on the author's part. Unless the author shares specific details showing that the ban of the associated account was inappropriate, my reaction is: good, glad you got booted. If one of the people you chose to associate your account with was previously a bad actor or involved with one…

The way I read your comment is that you've somehow managed to internalize being treated like crap by large organizations, and you expect others to be as sanguine as you are about it. Luckily, this is not the case. Many people still have a sense of dignity, of what is right, and what is unacceptable behavior, and express their discontent when mistreated. And hopefully they will continue to do so despite the unkind, un…

No, I was not accepting an argument that came across as 'our account was terminated and we have the RIGHT to be reinstated because this new account has done nothing wrong' In many other types of businesses it is rather common to be judged by the company one keeps. Given the importance of the app store account to this business, it seemed rather critical to keep it in good standing which would include vetting those they associated with it.

I admit that I was judging the story by the details that weren't included as I found the omission of them as the most relevant. Perhaps the flagging of the account in question was in fact wrongly done but it seems incumbent on the author of the article to make that case which they did not, in my opinion.

Here's the thing that really annoys me about this whole topic: I'm not a fan of the direction the app stores have gone (either as a user or a developer.) I'd much rather be reading and participating in discussions about what's going to disrupt them.

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#157

It sounds like the problem is with the outsourced developers responsible for the app. It's their account which has been banned - for multiple violations of the ToS. Now, perhaps this is just over-zealous enforcement on Google's part, but it's also possible that these developers have created shady apps before, or are adding shady code to apps developed for others. The OP doesn't seem to know for certain what code is i…

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Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#158
post #50

I actually just got my Google Ads account suspended because I forgot to update my billing address before adding a new card. The suspension was for "suspicious billing activity", tried appealing twice with the correct billing address, and was told the suspension is final (some automated email) both times. They won't take my calls because the account is suspended, which leaves me not being able to advertise on the #1 s…

We really need tech monopolies like Google to be regulated, in order to stop abuses like this.

The problem with this starts with the word "we". How do, for lack of a better word, "we" get some kind of authentic sense of we-ness going in this modern age of increasing social atomization? Here's how I do it... when I'm not busy hacking away on the next generation of (potentially planet saving) general computation[1], I am performing my solemn duties in the real world as "the peace guy"[2].

[1] See: https://linuxontheweb.org/desk.os

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=the+peace+guy

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#159

I don't understand why anyone has to do with Google in 2019, with all that's come to light. The only trace of them I have left is my Chromebook, which admittedly is hard to match. (Any suggestions?)

An old (5+ years) ThinkPad will do just as well as a Chromebook.

Re: Google terminated our business via our Google Play Developer Account

#160

The question I always have with this stuff is this: To attract developers, these platforms make some promises. A "review" process for supposed violations of TOS causing cancellations is always among them. But to me these "reviews" always seem either completely faked or some version of a lowest-level employee simply restating that the algo has made its choice and they are powerless. More incriminating is that every ti…

No, it's not fraud. A key element of fraud (civil and criminal) is that the accused knowingly misled, and to prove that you'd need to prove that there is no reasonable interpretation of what they said that they could have believed was true.
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