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A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by cs_1 »

adamesque wrote: post #23
aasarava wrote: post #15

The editor's response reveals a lot about her understanding (or lack thereof) of the business she's in. Normally I'm willing to overlook small typos in blog posts -- but when you are an editor, and you are writing an important response on an important issue, it's not wise to get the punctuation wrong on the very first word . (It should be "it's sad", not "its sad".) That she continues not to use apostrophes throughou…

Her business is to work "with small food-oriented businesses and farms to get the word out on their works/products". The vehicle is publishing, and I get the feeling she's using the magazine the same way a lot of normal people use their computers: as a means to an end. If I had to guess, I'd wager that's why she doesn't understand copyright. Her area of expertise (and I use that word with a HUGE grain of salt) is foo…

"Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, having been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine. I do know about copyright laws."

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by cs_1 »

dgreensp wrote: post #18
aasarava wrote: post #15

The editor's response reveals a lot about her understanding (or lack thereof) of the business she's in. Normally I'm willing to overlook small typos in blog posts -- but when you are an editor, and you are writing an important response on an important issue, it's not wise to get the punctuation wrong on the very first word . (It should be "it's sad", not "its sad".) That she continues not to use apostrophes throughou…

Plus, if I remember correctly, the editor thought Monica should rather compensate her for editing it. She'd been in the business for decades, she said, and Monica should feel privileged . Holy crap.

Original:

http://illadore.livejournal.com/30674.html

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by bigiain »

bigiain wrote: post #28

(Working on the assumption that the author is being sincere here) This displays such a fundamental misunderstanding of copyright that it initially shocked me. But in retrospect I suspect this attitude is probably very widely shared, particularly amongst younger people who've grown up with Napster and filesharing and bit torrent. While most of us don't republish other people's copyrighted work, I'm sure very few of us…

Actually, pondering this a bit further, I wonder if my idea of this being a "generational change" is wrong. I wonder how people in the 1930s or 1940s views their obligations to artists/composers/filmmakers/writers and those people's rights to control their published work?

It may be the "Disney era copyrights" are just a temporary anomaly in "the way the world works", in a similar way to the ~30 year "profitable album era" was for the music industry...

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by cs_1 »

[deleted] wrote: post #20
yalurker wrote: post #3

Wow, reading this didn't give me any sympathy for her at all. I'm reminded of the episode of South Park where Cartman feels bad only about getting punished, no actual guilt or remorse for his crime, and fails to understand how the other kids can feel bad in any way other than because of punishment. She steals someone else's work, gets caught and sends an arrogant, rude email with absurd claims (web is public domain)…

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> Maybe "she" deserves a serious wake-up call, but "they" most certainly do not.

Being a two-person operation is probably why they ripped off most if not all of their content.

"Craftier Internet denizens started to research more of Cooks Source's publications, discovering that other articles could be lifted from The Food Network, Martha Stewart, NPR and even Disney."

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/299928

Not just articles, but also photos, discovered with TinEye.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by drusenko »

yalurker wrote: post #3

Wow, reading this didn't give me any sympathy for her at all. I'm reminded of the episode of South Park where Cartman feels bad only about getting punished, no actual guilt or remorse for his crime, and fails to understand how the other kids can feel bad in any way other than because of punishment. She steals someone else's work, gets caught and sends an arrogant, rude email with absurd claims (web is public domain)…

I completely lost any possible sympathy for her when she posted this to Facebook, a day or so after the story broke:

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Hi Folks!

Well, here I am with egg on my face! I did apologise to Monica via email, but aparently it wasnt enough for her. To all of you, thank you for your interest in Cooks Source and Again, to Monica, I am sorry -- my bad! You did find a way to get your "pound of flesh..." we used to have 110 "friends," we now have 1,870... wow!

Best to all, Judith

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by space-monkey »

bigiain wrote: post #28

(Working on the assumption that the author is being sincere here) This displays such a fundamental misunderstanding of copyright that it initially shocked me. But in retrospect I suspect this attitude is probably very widely shared, particularly amongst younger people who've grown up with Napster and filesharing and bit torrent. While most of us don't republish other people's copyrighted work, I'm sure very few of us…

I don't see much hope for the end of perpetual "temporary" copyright extension (in the US), just due to the realities of the legislative process. I also wonder if the fair use exemptions have the unintended side effect of making it seem like we don't need a public domain.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by danilocampos »

My favorite part:

"I didnt notice it was copy written"

Assuming she means "copyrighted," damn. This individual is shockingly ignorant about the business of writing. The author of any work automatically receives copyright to that work (unless it's a work for hire, etc). It's that simple.

I want to believe no one can be that obtuse, and this line is just one more of the weak post-rationalizations she's offering for obvious bad behavior.

Re: A Follow-Up to "The Web is Public Domain"

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Post by [deleted] »

aasarava wrote: post #15

The editor's response reveals a lot about her understanding (or lack thereof) of the business she's in. Normally I'm willing to overlook small typos in blog posts -- but when you are an editor, and you are writing an important response on an important issue, it's not wise to get the punctuation wrong on the very first word . (It should be "it's sad", not "its sad".) That she continues not to use apostrophes throughou…

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