Live data from Hacker News

Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

techcrunch.com

711–720 of 963 posts

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#711

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. Offer a paid version and a free version, but some people use ad blockers, and expose most of your customers to malware.

So that leaves option one. Or for browser vendors to start shipping ad blockers or third party javascript blockers by default.

How many people have gotten malware from Spotify ads?

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#712

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm not mistaken the audio ads still use ad servers, so if you're on a network where someone is running a PiHole or something similar, the ads will be blocked. So running Spotify on an another person's network could get your account suspended if they're blocking ads, I guess.

Hopefully Spotify doesn't ban my paid for account because I'm using an Android wide ad blocking solution.

are you using blokada ?

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#713
post #255

Good. Spotify has a pretty cheap paid option that removes all of that. To those who justify wanting the paid service for nothing by saying Spotify won't "take responsibility" or "assume liability" for their ads or those ads "might deliver malware" or are "intrusive" as a weak rationalization, you present a false dichotomy. There are at least three options: 1. Pay for the service 2. Suffer through the ads 3. Don't use…

For me it feels like death by a thousand paper cuts. $10 to spotify, $10 to neflix (or whatever they charge now), $10 to some other streaming service, etc.

[deleted]

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#715

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enjoy your ban! I'm always pleased when companies stand up to grifters like you. Go back to stealing mp3s or whatever it is you think you're entitled to.

I am not sure why you are accusing someone of a crime ("stealing"). Installing an ad blocker is within someone's full legal right. Why are you making false statements regarding what is or is not a crime?

Okay, but your agreement with Spotify on the free tier is "we provide music, you agree to be subject to our ads." If you block the ads, they can then yank the music.

Personally, I haven't jumped on the streaming music thing (iTunes Match is about as close as it gets for me with buying CDs or MP3s to add to it in time), but I don't think what they're doing is a bad thing.

Now, if you have some means to force the various ad networks to prevent hijacking a device and then telling me congratulations for being an Amazon customer and some random item blinks on my screen, I'm all ears. But ads in and of themselves, I don't have a problem with.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#716
post #13

They allow advertisers to run JS on your device, and ads are a trendy way to deliver malware. People are using ad blockers not just to hide annoyances and to improve performance, but to protect themselves from bad actors. https://spotifyforbrands.com/en-US/ad-experiences/ > JavaScript or iFrame Tags: All third-party tags and tracking URLs need to be in https format. I was on the fence about this because there is a le…

" We can push anything we want to your device but don't you dare try to block it. That's a Terms of Service Violation ." Well, it was nice knowing you Spotify.

> We can push anything we want to your device

I mean, they're pushing things to your device at your request, because you logged on to use their free service. If you don't want them to push ads to your device, they were kind enough to offer you a paid option where they won't do that.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#717
post #255

Good. Spotify has a pretty cheap paid option that removes all of that. To those who justify wanting the paid service for nothing by saying Spotify won't "take responsibility" or "assume liability" for their ads or those ads "might deliver malware" or are "intrusive" as a weak rationalization, you present a false dichotomy. There are at least three options: 1. Pay for the service 2. Suffer through the ads 3. Don't use…

I agree with your sentiment, but there's one piece of this whole thing I have a big problem with. It's my device. I understand Spotify's motivation to want compensation for their great service, but shouldn't I be able to run my software, on my device, on my terms? I understand this argument doesn't solve anything, and puts Spotify in a bad situation. But...how long until someone creates a solution to scrub the audio…

Yes, you can run whatever software you want on your device. Who is telling you you can't?

In turn, Spotify can prevent whomever they want from streaming their content for free.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#718
post #13

They allow advertisers to run JS on your device, and ads are a trendy way to deliver malware. People are using ad blockers not just to hide annoyances and to improve performance, but to protect themselves from bad actors. https://spotifyforbrands.com/en-US/ad-experiences/ > JavaScript or iFrame Tags: All third-party tags and tracking URLs need to be in https format. I was on the fence about this because there is a le…

" We can push anything we want to your device but don't you dare try to block it. That's a Terms of Service Violation ." Well, it was nice knowing you Spotify.

I'm sure they're very sad to be losing users that cost them money and generate $0 revenue in return.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#719

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enjoy your ban! I'm always pleased when companies stand up to grifters like you. Go back to stealing mp3s or whatever it is you think you're entitled to.

I am not sure why you are accusing someone of a crime ("stealing"). Installing an ad blocker is within someone's full legal right. Why are you making false statements regarding what is or is not a crime?

On a related note, getting unapproved access described as "stealing" (or theft, or piracy, or...) didn't stop being a nasty rhetorical trick just because it became standard.

Creating another copy or playthrough of a song without permission doesn't have zero cost, fine, but the entire conversation is cheapened when people talk like it's the same thing as pocketing a cassette tape from a store.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

#720
post #221

But Spotify is only $10 a month....Your time spent pirating vs. time saved on Spotify has to be worth something.

Most music is freely available on YouTube now and there's even desktop clients that just grab the audio stream from YouTube videos. Spotify in my experience often has less content than YouTube so I'd say it's probably worth negative time, sound about right?
Post reply on HN