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Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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So you're rewarding them for bad behavior with your money. Think about what this does to their incentives.

It's totally unclear to me why you think this should be considered bad behavior. Imagine a grocery store has a promotion - you can get a loaf of bread for free if you listen to a twenty minute advertising presentation. Does this justify not going to the presentation, and just stealing the bread?

You go to the presentation and someone demands you empty your pockets into a bowl that they will take into another room while you watch the presentation, wallet, phone, keys, etc.... You decline and leave, but you already ate the bread! Did you steal it?

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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Good. Spotify has a pretty cheap paid option that removes all of that. To those who justify wanting the paid service for nothing by saying Spotify won't "take responsibility" or "assume liability" for their ads or those ads "might deliver malware" or are "intrusive" as a weak rationalization, you present a false dichotomy. There are at least three options: 1. Pay for the service 2. Suffer through the ads 3. Don't use…

No, paying for service doesn't guarantee ad-free and tracking-free experience at all, especially for VC backed companies. They probably already inject tons of tracking for paying users. And those users are still just users, not customers. The only real customers of spotify are advertisers and sooner or later paying users are going to be sold to advertisers, there is just more money there and they can't ignore that.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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Yes; with pinning music offline it's still encrypted & within the Spotify app. The app needs to be connected to the internet at least every 30 days to ensure that your subscription is still current (and, presumably, that all those tracks are still permitted to be on your device). I've suffered the same, as content agreements have changed, tracks have been made unavailable in playlists. There's a setting in Spotify to…

They've replaced original recordings on my playlists with newer rerecordins, too. It's not the same at all when a band rerecords forty years later...

Same here. RIP original Babe Ruth Runaways recording.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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Good. Spotify has a pretty cheap paid option that removes all of that. To those who justify wanting the paid service for nothing by saying Spotify won't "take responsibility" or "assume liability" for their ads or those ads "might deliver malware" or are "intrusive" as a weak rationalization, you present a false dichotomy. There are at least three options: 1. Pay for the service 2. Suffer through the ads 3. Don't use…

Years ago, a Windows virus slipped on to three family machines I'm the go-to-guy for, due to Spotify using IE to display ads, and not vetting its ads properly.

My answer was two-fold - never use Spotify, and always use an ad-blocker.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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I got this email notice today and my first thought was "why do I still have a Spotify account?" then I remembered I was unable to get rid of it when I tried a few years ago. I found you can delete it here[1]: Account -> I want to close my account permanently. Then there are a bunch of confirmations, including an email.

https://support.spotify.com/us/contact-spotify-support/

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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A better analogy is a protection racket: pay up or we'll serve ads that might contain malware to your device. If Spotify took responsibility for fixing my computer when it gets a worm from an ad, we'd have a deal that is much more fair.

Nothing forces you to use Spotify.

Absolutely, not using Spotify is better option. My original comment was arguing against "just pay for it" being a good outcome, as it relates to Spotify's future incentives.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading. If you don’t like the ads, Spotify has a subscription plan. In my country that’s €5 / month. Surely that’s less money spent than the effort it takes to pirate music for usage with foobar2000.

What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading. Fuck the money, I’m not letting a site run arbitrary code on my machine, especially when they have a track record of spying and installing malware. They have a right to make a living, I have a right to own my property without having it damaged by casual greed.

Well sure, then don't use Spotify, what's the problem?

If a business is offering a product at terms you don't like, how exactly is that bad? Just don't use the product.

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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Good. Spotify has a pretty cheap paid option that removes all of that. To those who justify wanting the paid service for nothing by saying Spotify won't "take responsibility" or "assume liability" for their ads or those ads "might deliver malware" or are "intrusive" as a weak rationalization, you present a false dichotomy. There are at least three options: 1. Pay for the service 2. Suffer through the ads 3. Don't use…

Why should spotify have any say on what software you use on your computer?

Re: Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers

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What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading. If you don’t like the ads, Spotify has a subscription plan. In my country that’s €5 / month. Surely that’s less money spent than the effort it takes to pirate music for usage with foobar2000.

I'm not a "freeloader" as I pay for the premium service, but this news is the last straw. I'm unsubscribing and uninstalling, as soon as I figure out how to download my playlists. I know this news doesn't affect me, but the principle is the important thing.

What principle, exactly? That all businesses should have to offer their product for free?

Can you state in clear terms the "principle" that Spotify is violating?

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