But Spotify is only $10 a month....Your time spent pirating vs. time saved on Spotify has to be worth something.
Spotify will now suspend or terminate accounts it finds are using ad blockers
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#222There are so many complaints about Amazon's power and reach, but does anyone else here see an in for Amazon Music? I've been a Spotify paying member for years, but even though it only affects free members it makes me raise my eyebrows.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's purely hubris. They clearly don't understand the nature of the beast.
A non-paying customer who doesn't listen to ads has absolutely zero value to Spotify. Why shouldn't they block them?
Because non-paying customers have the potential to become paying ones.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Video is something of a shitshow and I'm somewhat sympathetic to people who don't want to buy a DVD just because Netflix has driven all the local rental places out of business, their own catalog is rotting, and it's not available for even a la carte streaming. Or you have to subscribe to yet another streaming service just to watch one show. But music? There may be corner cases but pretty much any of the big streaming…
Anyone offering the complete collection of any artist including bootlags, unreleased tracks, artwork and in some cases images of used tickets of the shows?
If bootlegs and unreleased tracks were officially released, they would become official and released tracks.
If there's a specific unreleased track you want, fine, pirate that. I don't think there's anything wrong with pirating content that's not available for sale (as long as you buy it if/when it does become available for sale). However, the existence of some unreleased tracks do not give you license to pirate tracks which are released.
Outside of specific, exceptional circumstances, I have zero sympathy for anyone pirating music in 2018. Music is finally being distributed in the DRM Free, affordable, and unencumbered formats consumers have been asking for.
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#226It's fascinating how we, humans, are lazy. We're lazy to the point where we'd gladly allow services like Spotify to control our computers just so they can make sure their ad was delivered. We'll even justify it by "well, I really listen to a lot of music". All I want is to push a button and get some bearable-noise during my 8 hours at work. I don't know about the rest, but I really hate when someone makes a fool out…
What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading. If you don’t like the ads, Spotify has a subscription plan. In my country that’s €5 / month. Surely that’s less money spent than the effort it takes to pirate music for usage with foobar2000.
> What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading.
I can tell you didn't read carefully what I wrote, but that's fine.
Here's what Spotify tells me: "Spotify gives you instant access to millions of songs – from old favorites to the latest hits. Just hit play to stream anything you like."
Where's "but we'll also monitor you and inject whatever code we can, we might allow our customers to do so too, we don't know what it might be but since we wasted $0.003 to acquire you, we need to make at least $5 off of you and we don't really care what happens to your device or if someone breaches our customer and does bad shit to you."
I believe in reciprocity - and the odds are worse at my side if I "freeload" :)
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's not because I don't want to pay for the content, I'd happily pay 2-3x under the right circumstances. It's because no one wants to take my money and provide the content I want without bundling it with drm, ads, dark patterns, insane region segmentation. Can't help you with movies/Netflix, but in the case of Spotify, you could go back to buying mp3's. Google Play, Amazon, iTunes (aac format), etc will all sell y…
Netflix offers too much value for a small amount plus the size of movies makes downloading/previewing the throwaway type of netflix shows make it hard to justify the effort to pirate. Spotify always seems less useful compared to winamp if you knew what music you liked or like to download everything from one band who's best days are behind them. A hassle for new stuff but if you want the all of the 'yes' albums the ra…
Not to neglect that traditional media for music can be found cheaply. I got something like 200 cds of great classical music from the relatives of a passed neighbor. Garage sales and such are great, too. They’re not great for newer music, but there are options.
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#228Sounds like a reasonable move. Spotify delivers so much value that I couldn’t imagine not paying for it (or enduring ads). I listened to something like 25 straight days of music last year.
no kidding, not only does it deliver a ton of value but a large portion of their revenue goes to artists. people are able to listen to nearly any band on any device at the push of a button and literally don't want to pay a penny.
(I think I had about 1500+ hours of listening last year ... 60 days or so)
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
What’s fascinating to me is the length people go to in order to justify freeloading. If you don’t like the ads, Spotify has a subscription plan. In my country that’s €5 / month. Surely that’s less money spent than the effort it takes to pirate music for usage with foobar2000.
So you're rewarding them for bad behavior with your money. Think about what this does to their incentives.
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#230Anyone know if there's a host file blacklist for malicious domains only? Most of the ones I've seen block all ads. The first time I experienced a malicious ad in Spotify on my Linux machine, I started blocking them via my hosts file [1]. I was only hoping to block malicious sites but it ended up giving me a completely ad-free experience in Spotify. As a free user I accept that I will be exposed to ads in exchange for…
Malicious advertisements are served off of normal ad distribution networks, which is what gives them their power - they're being hosted using the normal process, not from anybody new or special. The server used for the malware is disposable and ephemeral. Vetting advertisements would interfere with the real-time auction process, so nobody does any more than is required.