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Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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>"hacked" by either the US or Saudi government You think the U.S./Saudi government can remotely grab pics from an iPhone? Apple has disclosed lots of security info saying even they cannot do this. The iPhone/iOS wasn't built in that way. I think the leak likely comes from someone close to Ms. Sanchez, or she fell victim to a phishing attack (or account recovery hack).

Apple is part of the PRISM surveillance program [1] operated by the NSA. Internal slides from the NSA indicate that said program is capable of providing "extensive, in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information" including email, video, voice chat, photos, and more. When Apple was first approached about their role in PRISM they, unlike other companies, chose to outright lie stating that, "We have…

I find it amazing we have to repeat this again and again. People act like this never happened.

I'm really wondering what's the cognitive mechanism that allows people to just discard enormous informations like this one.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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post #346

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It's worth noting that Jeff Bezos has a lot to gain from publishing these threats. While publishing the descriptions of the photographs may sting, publishing the photos themselves would hurt a lot more. Now that he's made the accusations public, AMI could not plausibly publish the actual photos.

They won't publish them. But I'll guarantee you they will anonymously leak out on the internet. There is no way to prove they are the only people with these photos. (and they of course aren't the only ones)

Can Bezos get a US court to impound the photos? Something akin to the UK 'super injunction'?

That would make being caught leaking the photos perjury. The stakes are so high that AMI might well not dare to do that.

Its easy to imagine that Bezos, whatever he is saying publicly, is also getting excellent legal consul privately and that two can play at the games that AMI is so infamous for.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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All the money in the world can't buy your pride / dignity back, especially if some "embarrassing" evidence get out there. It's something in the way people would look at you, talk about you, etc ... If you combine that with the Streisand effect, there's no way a public figure can take this kind of hit and walk away unphased. It's very much human nature, and that's why Jeff's move is bold.

Standing up to that fucker does, in fact, buy you your pride and dignity back. The only thing missing here is Bezos offering to up the ante with a newer dickpic.

Agreed. Bezos gained more respect (in my eyes, and I'm delighted to see a lot of others too!) by the way he's handling this than anything that could be lost by the "reveals". (My own carefactor is zero).

In fact offering the full text of the extortion attempt shows true courage, and at the same time claims back all the power the items might have had.

It just makes me despise these dickheads even more and totally root (the Australian version) for Bezos - go get them!!

I'm super interested in what happens next.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that Jeff Bezos has a lot to gain from publishing these threats. While publishing the descriptions of the photographs may sting, publishing the photos themselves would hurt a lot more. Now that he's made the accusations public, AMI could not plausibly publish the actual photos.

They won't publish them. But I'll guarantee you they will anonymously leak out on the internet. There is no way to prove they are the only people with these photos. (and they of course aren't the only ones)

Even if that happens, people will now blame AMI for any published or leaked photos that fit the description, regardless of their denial.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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What struck me was how brazen AMI was about the blackmail. Then I realized: they were comoftable doing it that way, putting it in writing, because in nearly every other time they've done this, it worked.

I wonder how this appears in their financial filings? I hardly think they have a line item for extortion.

They're not asking for money

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Remember the fappening? It doesnt need to be remote grabbing, people just upload their nudes to the icloud. Maybe jeff did as well. While apple says they are end to end encrypted, I also assume they work with the FBI/whoever to catch owners of illegal content, so they probably would have a way to get the unencrypted content.

"working with" the fbi usually means the fbi provides hashes of images containing illegal content like child pornography and image providers give up any accounts that contain images with those hashes(google does it this way) they don't just give the fbi data access without a court order

Sure, but to be able to create the exact same hash as the FBI you need to be able to access the unencrypted content.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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post #285

It seems like a lot of people are not reading between the lines of this post. Bezos apparently believes that he was hacked by either the US or Saudi government and that now one or both of those governments are using the National Enquirer as an attack dog against him. That accusation is much bigger than any other piece of this story. EDIT: Here [1] is a reporter from the Washington Post backing that up. The Bezos' cam…

House of Saud, maybe, they are dumb enough to think this would work. Given their inept handling of the Khashoggi I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt anyone in the US intelligence profession would think Bezos would call off the WaPo because of some scandalous photos. "Just blackmail the richest man on the planet, that will totally work!"

> "Just blackmail the richest man on the planet, that will totally work!"

Given the number of people and media who seem to be convinced without a doubt that Trump is being blackmailed by Russia...

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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post #245

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Amazon could pull a CloudFlare and knock them off the internet as nationalenquirer.com seems to be hosted on AWS. My guess is Amazon/Bezos already has multiple backups of the Enquirer's digital assets for forensic purposes. https://twitter.com/ryanhuber/status/1093665718464327680

I'm not sure if you are joking, but that's exactly what they should not be doing. They also can't just go poke around their customer's data. That would be very unwise...

Microsoft did something similar a few years back - reading the hotmail messages of someone they thought had received some stolen software. It looked pretty bad. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/34229/micros...
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