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Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by rnvhhynr »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #327
Balgair wrote: post #15

Whatever you think about Jeff, this is the correct way to handle such things. We should all have the same character in such a situation (despite how the situation arose; in this case via an affair). Jeff has MANY other issues of moral disfortitude (we all do to some degree, though not at these scales). However, this particular event is to be applauded and emulated.

> this is the correct way to handle such things. Yes, with conditions . Bezos himself writes, in the article we're discussing: I asked him to prioritise protecting my time since I have other things I prefer to work on and to proceed with whatever budget he needed to pursue the facts in this matter. - emphasis mine. And that: On that point, numerous people have contacted our investigation team about their similar expe…

Someone without that net worth won't be blackmailed by the US and Saudi governments.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by kkarakk »

thecatspaw wrote: post #350
toephu2 wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"hacked" by either the US or Saudi government You think the U.S./Saudi government can remotely grab pics from an iPhone? Apple has disclosed lots of security info saying even they cannot do this. The iPhone/iOS wasn't built in that way. I think the leak likely comes from someone close to Ms. Sanchez, or she fell victim to a phishing attack (or account recovery hack).

Remember the fappening? It doesnt need to be remote grabbing, people just upload their nudes to the icloud. Maybe jeff did as well. While apple says they are end to end encrypted, I also assume they work with the FBI/whoever to catch owners of illegal content, so they probably would have a way to get the unencrypted content.

"working with" the fbi usually means the fbi provides hashes of images containing illegal content like child pornography and image providers give up any accounts that contain images with those hashes(google does it this way)

they don't just give the fbi data access without a court order

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by ck425 »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

Important note: This is written by Jeff Bezos himself . Normally, the Bezos affair story would be gossipy, but this alleges extortion , extraordinarily. (Also, why is Jeff Bezos using Medium? He owns a newspaper.)

He doesn't need to use the Post. He's the richest man in the world, if he writes an article claiming someone is trying to extort him it'll get plenty of press regardless. And with Medium he can just publish it himself and it removes any biases folk have about the paper.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by Tempest1981 »

toephu2 wrote: post #335
slg wrote: post #285

It seems like a lot of people are not reading between the lines of this post. Bezos apparently believes that he was hacked by either the US or Saudi government and that now one or both of those governments are using the National Enquirer as an attack dog against him. That accusation is much bigger than any other piece of this story. EDIT: Here [1] is a reporter from the Washington Post backing that up. The Bezos' cam…

>"hacked" by either the US or Saudi government You think the U.S./Saudi government can remotely grab pics from an iPhone? Apple has disclosed lots of security info saying even they cannot do this. The iPhone/iOS wasn't built in that way. I think the leak likely comes from someone close to Ms. Sanchez, or she fell victim to a phishing attack (or account recovery hack).

There was mention of Michael Sanchez: https://www.thedailybeast.com/bezos-investigators-question-t... (Link at bottom of the medium post)

So it may have been his mistress' phone that was compromised.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by scotty79 »

hackathonguy wrote: post #324
Balgair wrote: post #15

Whatever you think about Jeff, this is the correct way to handle such things. We should all have the same character in such a situation (despite how the situation arose; in this case via an affair). Jeff has MANY other issues of moral disfortitude (we all do to some degree, though not at these scales). However, this particular event is to be applauded and emulated.

It's worth noting that Jeff Bezos has a lot to gain from publishing these threats. While publishing the descriptions of the photographs may sting, publishing the photos themselves would hurt a lot more. Now that he's made the accusations public, AMI could not plausibly publish the actual photos.

I don't see how much public availability of such photos could hurt him. He's already divorcing. He probably had to accept many humbling things about himself over last few years.

The only thing those photos would change is undeniably confirm that richest man on the planet has actual human male body and some love life, which pretty much everyone already suspected.

Some people will get a kick of it but it will eventually blend into the background same as fappening or a photo of a hole in the sock of president of world bank.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by e3pi »

andrewstuart wrote: post #16

Having read the whole thing, man Jeff Bezos has a great deal of courage. It helps to be backed by untold wealth but here is a guy who stands tall in the face of ghastly behaviour and in the face of deep personal embarrassment. +1 Bezos.

Good billionairism or otherwise Jeff. Please don't enter a Saudi embassy, unless to hand out hearing protectors with a smile on them.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by scotty79 »

reitzensteinm wrote: post #30
hypochondria wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that this is a great example. The scandal was already out. His wife was already leaving him. The public already knows and already assumed lurid exploits. The rest is just details. It would be different if the decision to publicize this extortion attempt had been what caused his divorce.

They are threatening to post photos of him sexting. Calling that "just details" is a stunning lack of empathy. Even if you'd personally be unperturbed by a similar situation, the vast majority of humans would find it humiliating and invasive in the extreme.

I think Jeff Bezos is one the people that wouldn't take a picture with their PHONE if they thought the photo should never ever be leaked to public.

Any photo you take with a connected device can be eventually obtained and published. I hope all the folks here are aware about that.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by sundvor »

wp381640 wrote: post #157
theNJR wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also interesting that the writing is a bit clunky. Doesn't seem to have gone through 100 coms people.

apparently his lawyers didn't even know he was posting it does come across as quickly written and rather genuine

Yep, and I love it even more so for that reason. This is the kind of gloves off, honest response that instantly made me respect him.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

rnvhhynr wrote: post #391
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this is the correct way to handle such things. Yes, with conditions . Bezos himself writes, in the article we're discussing: I asked him to prioritise protecting my time since I have other things I prefer to work on and to proceed with whatever budget he needed to pursue the facts in this matter. - emphasis mine. And that: On that point, numerous people have contacted our investigation team about their similar expe…

Someone without that net worth won't be blackmailed by the US and Saudi governments.

At risk of repeating myself, Bezos one words:

On that point, numerous people have contacted our investigation team about their similar experiences with AMI, and how they needed to capitulate because, for example, their livelihoods were at stake.

You’re right, most people are never going to face such an adversary personally.

But there are legions of other adversaries, at all sorts of levels, who are out to pray on almost anyone with a bit of money / fame.

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