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Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#91

If you ever find yourself with scandalous or incriminating material on someone remember this: Blackmail will always fail in the long run. It's commonnly known in espionage tradecraft that it's an absolute last resort or totally off limits tool. The risk you take with coercive trade craft are insanely high. As proven here.

And if you are going to do it. For fucks sake, do not put it in writing...

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s generally not blackmail to threaten someone with some action that, by itself, is legal. See, for example, the many civil settlements where rich people stop the people they raped from going to the police. And I’m unsure what the status is on publishing salacious private photos. Sure, there is a copyright issue. But that’s a civil matter, not criminal. If it were a crime, it really wouldn’t be much of a threat bec…

That's not true at all. > Blackmail is the crime of threatening to reveal embarrassing, disgraceful or damaging information about a person to the public, family, spouse or associates unless money is paid to purchase silence. It is a form of extortion. Because the information is usually substantially true, it is not revealing the information that is criminal, but demanding money to withhold it. https://definitions.usl…

So I'm curious - is this considered blackmail if the object isn't money?

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#95

Granted, this strategy is very high risk unless you're one of the richest people in the world.

The problem I have with most super rich people is that they consider genuine risk far less important than potential embarrassment. E.g. they won't dare taking a stand politically because of the chance that someone will go public with some scandalous nonsense. Bezos on the other hand seems willing to calculate differently. I have to say, this has changed my opinion of him a lot in his favour. On the very remote chance…

Although, it did, I assume, trigger the divorce which will cost him a couple billion dollars

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#98

Granted, this strategy is very high risk unless you're one of the richest people in the world.

The problem I have with most super rich people is that they consider genuine risk far less important than potential embarrassment. E.g. they won't dare taking a stand politically because of the chance that someone will go public with some scandalous nonsense. Bezos on the other hand seems willing to calculate differently. I have to say, this has changed my opinion of him a lot in his favour. On the very remote chance…

All the money in the world can't buy your pride / dignity back, especially if some "embarrassing" evidence get out there.

It's something in the way people would look at you, talk about you, etc ...

If you combine that with the Streisand effect, there's no way a public figure can take this kind of hit and walk away unphased. It's very much human nature, and that's why Jeff's move is bold.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#99

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know why this is so low on HN? It has more votes and is more recent than anything except the "How I didn't make a billion dollar company" post, but is at rank 11. https://imgur.com/a/bifDABu

HN penalizes post randomly sometimes. The last time I had one of my blogpost pretty high on the front page, it lasted an hour and then went directly to 5th-page. It gave me an impression that everything on the FP is heavily handpicked.

Re: No Thank You, Mr. Pecker

#100
post #70

Granted, this strategy is very high risk unless you're one of the richest people in the world.

Really? I'm at the other extreme: blackmailing me would be pointless as there would be no gain (not to mention in my boring case any unclad selfies would have to be synthesized). And in the current world[+] there's so much exposure that such pictures will be drowned out by the sheer volume of stuff. Yes, we're still at a point where politicians can lose their jobs because of racialist photos or certain indiscretions,…

At minimum, this type of post would intensify a very expensive legal battle, which Bezos admits in this article he's looking forward to.

For anyone else, going bankrupt in an attempt to fight blackmail would be a pyrrhic victory in the best-case scenario.

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