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Re: Ask HN: How are you getting through (and back from) burning out?

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It's almost as if the audience of this site participates in an incredibly toxic work culture and we're hearing regular cries for help from the victims of it.

Burnout is real. I was promoted from an entry level to senior level engineer in three years at one of the top tech companies. My compensation is great, and I’m saving heavily. Also, I’m exhausted. As in... I’m wondering what to do next with my life and work. Burn out is an understatement. I don’t talk to my spouse about this because this person has a lot of stuff to deal with, and my family relationships have wined d…

Easy answer: therapists.

They're paid to listen to you and help you figure out your problems.

Re: Ask HN: How are you getting through (and back from) burning out?

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I sat and analyzed the things that were bugging me most.

It turned out it was the hour and a half commuting on ridiculously crowded trains every day, the total lack of privacy I had in my open office, and management which wasn't flexible about my hours.

So I ran away to Europe for three months and when I came back I landed myself a remote job.

I love the product, management is very handsoff, and I'm basically left to myself most days.

I get tons of work done because it's so easy to focus.

I'm never on a super crowded and long commute (or at least not daily).

Everyone in my company is always happy to hear my updates which I post here and there as I work.

And sometimes I take a nap for thirty minutes during lunch.

Life has never been better for me. I've eliminated the bad (commute, bad management, lack of privacy, inability to focus in a crowded office environment) which lets me focus on the parts I love (delving into a problem and solving it, letting myself be tired when I'm tired, not bounded by hours but instead by output).

It's not for everybody, and I love seeing my coworkers in the office, but I have enough of a social life I can make sure I'm not ending up a loner.

So in the end, I recommend identifying exactly what it is that's burning you out. For me it was the aforementioned issues, for others it might be something else. Once you can solve for X, Y can be less burnt out :-).

Re: Ask HN: How are you getting through (and back from) burning out?

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Square breathing helped a lot: hold breath 2-4 seconds, exhale, then inhale, hold 2-4 seconds. Do this whenever you feel stressed, kicks you out of fight or flight.

Tying up loose ends helps. Reduce the number of things you need to focus on. And fix any little problems in your life.

I don't mean big problems. Little naggy things. Just reduce the number of things you need to worry about.

Make sure to sleep. I've found autosleep on my apple watch helpful. It does an hrv measure now. Hrv correlates strongly with overall stress level. Tracking this seems to have helped.

Time helps. And if I could have done something different, I would have done far fewer trips: my burnout was extended by a series of trips all in a row.

However, a long solo trip to a new place where you make a routine can be nice. It was little trips brought about by external circumstance that increased my stress.

Re: Ask HN: How are you getting through (and back from) burning out?

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Burnout is often when you expend a lot of energy and accomplish little. You can make lots of money, get promotions, but it has to align with personal goals.

For me, my image of success was buying an Alienware and playing games all day, so the long hours of a startup took me away from that after a certain level of wealth.

I find the cure for burnout is not doing nothing, but rather expending energy towards something where you have progress. If you like to play games, play competitively for a while. Go for some exercise, learn a new language, pick up martial arts. Something that's quite tiring but gives you rapid progress.

My first major cure was going from tech to a 14-hour shift barista job. Second cure was teaching programming to students, two months on the road. Third cure was picking up a CTO job to rescue a dying startup. Fourth playing and winning a major multiplayer game. Fifth was two back to back weeks of corporate training and startups.

YMMV, but I've had year long rest breaks which didn't help. It was the tiring jobs that cured me.

Re: Ask HN: How are you getting through (and back from) burning out?

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One idea is to try to focus the things you once thought were fun. If you are a developer try some recreational coding. Just build something fun.

This is a bit of a plug but checkout Jamis Buck. I interviewed him about burn out and I learned a lot. It can be a slow process to rekindle things after burn out so give yourself time.

https://corecursive.com/025-burn-out-and-recreational-progra...

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