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What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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So which led light bulb do you install in your house?

Ikea when the size is available, for reasons I cannot discuss here.

Do you have preference for a particular line of Ikea bulbs? (Ryet, Ledare, etc)

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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yeah, darn those pesky laws around liability getting in the way of some good old-fashioned handiwork.

The law once mandated that you hire the services of a licensed electrician to replace a lightbulb. Imagine if the same laws where applied to tech. Need to update Microsoft office? No way arround it you need to hire the services of a licensed IT professional! You might get electrocuted in the process not being a professional. So it all makes sense.

That's not a law, just an event venue rule based on their union contracts.

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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One potential solution would be to standardize the driver and lighter assemblies and allow them to be independently replaced. You could even then have lamps with a single large driver which connects to many small lighter assemblies without duplicated effort. Of course, that standardiZation process could take a very long time and have a wide variety of form factors, output levels, etc... which is sort of where we are anyway with light fixtures and bulbs today!

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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Lifetime isn't even my #1 concern with LED bulbs. It's strobing/flickering. I film all the LED bulbs I buy in slow motion at 240 fps with an Android phone, and play the movie back on a PC with mplayer using the dot(".") key to move frame by frame. Here is a shot I made comparing 2 brands of LED bulbs: https://youtu.be/QbenId_F2RQ (Edit: yeah you don't have to transfer to a PC, just playing back in slow motion on the…

I just went and tried to find a bright (1000-1500 lumens) Philips LED bulb with a cool temperature (3500-4500)... but it seems every Philips LED bulb is "warm white"* :/ That's fine for a living room, but not what I want in my home office, kitchen or bathroom.

* at least in the UK

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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My personal biggest problem with LED bulbs is that my entire (100 year old) home is wired with neutral free light wiring and a lot of 3-way switches. This makes using dimmers very hard and most do not support 3-way and many will not work with LEDs and no neutral wire. Some do - Lutron Caseta makes a nice neutral free dimmer that works on many of my bulbs - but others don’t and I then just use high efficiency incandescents. Shame. Maybe there is a good “neutral free dimmable LED” that allows reasonable leakage current so the dimmer can work.

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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Lifetime isn't even my #1 concern with LED bulbs. It's strobing/flickering. I film all the LED bulbs I buy in slow motion at 240 fps with an Android phone, and play the movie back on a PC with mplayer using the dot(".") key to move frame by frame. Here is a shot I made comparing 2 brands of LED bulbs: https://youtu.be/QbenId_F2RQ (Edit: yeah you don't have to transfer to a PC, just playing back in slow motion on the…

What I've found to help weed out the worst of the worst is to only buy dimmable versions of the bulbs. They cost more but because they have to support dimming they're almost required to have a better power supply to handle the usual triac based control that most dimmers have.

Not sure this always holds.

The worst bulbs I've personally seen for flicker were dimmable ones.

The non-dimmable variant from the same range had no noticable flicker.

Price paid also seems to be no indicator of quality – I've had premium LED bulbs from major makes, bought from a reputable wholesaler, that have died after 6 months within days of each other.

I've had cheap no-name imports that have lasted years and had no flicker.

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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I replaced around 25 bulbs in my house with cheap Walmart "Great Value" LEDs just under 3 years ago and they've all been fine. Previously, I had replaced around 4 bulbs with Cree LEDs from Home Depot, and half of those were dead within a few months. The Walmart bulbs without any special pricing were way cheaper than the Cree bulbs from Home Depot, but even better, there was some sort of automatic rebate or something…

I bought about 100 regular incandescents in various wattages at Lowes before they were banned. I wish I had bought a lot more. They were about $0.25 per bulb at the clearance sale prices. CFLs and LEDs are poor substitutes from a quality-of-light standpoint. Also AFAIK there is no hazardous waste in a burned-out incandescent. You can throw it away with a clear conscience.

Can you not still buy halogens? I like the light they give out and while they are nowhere near the efficiency of an LED bulb, they last pretty long by incandescent standards and they are somewhat more efficient than the old argon bulbs.

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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I bought a pile of cheap LED bulbs[0] when they first became available on Amazon Canada, and replaced every light in my home. They've run cheap and cold for years now, without a single failure. I suspect that there's some planned obsolescence in newer products. 0: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01EN9L8YU?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_m...

Similarly, I replaced all my bulbs around 2011/2012 after buying a new place and I have yet to have a single one fail on me. These were fairly expensive, about $11 each (the going rate at the time), and were TCP brand, but it was unpleasant to read that newer bulbs might be far worse when it comes time to replace them, even if they are cheaper. I love the fact that they die so infrequently that I don't have to keep a…

I have had good but not perfect luck with the TCP bulbs. I've had two or three die (out of perhaps 40 or so). They also have mediocre color compared to a newer design.

Re: What Happened to the 100000 Hour LED Bulbs?

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For bulbs that are really cheap, people won't keep their receipts and warranty information. I think it will be hard for bulbs to differentiate by warranty.

The advantage of buying online.

Or Home Depot. Give them your email address and attach your cards to it and then you will always have the receipt.
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