These services need a Robin Hood hacker to take pennies or dollars from
the transactions going to the Instacart bank accounts, and the executives back accounts, and disburse them equally to the workers.
Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
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Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#62This is a great example in my opinion of the apathy we need to combat as technologists. Why did NO ONE in any meetings when designing this "feature" or process say anything? "This is wrong/greedy/will have blowback." No one voiced concerns? Or, more specifically, if they did, no one listened? They didn't think this would leak out, with all the hatred regarding wage stagnation, income inequality, corporate greed? A ma…
Worth noting as well that they call the workers 'shoppers' which helps distance them from the concept of doing work.
You mean we have to pay them just to shop all day? /s
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
When the pendulum swings very-left (as it will, American politics follow a tick-tock partisan pattern) I believe someone (AOC?) will crack down on "contractor" companies - they're not paying payroll taxes. Not a good thing.
What's to crack down on exactly? The government still gets all its taxes. It just gets all of it from the employee (sorry, "contractor") rather than getting half each from the employee and employer.
In this case the employee is getting paid potentially paid "less" so wouldn't that men less taxes on that end?
I'm not sure that tax payment by say a random start up or given to en employee would necessarily be 1:1.
Netflix made big profits, but paid little tax, if they had paid it as salary (obviously not going to happen) I bet there would be more tax revenue.
And that's just assuming the objections are about tax revenue... they're not.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that case I recommend that you go to your bank and make a cash withdrawal in the form of $2 bills. That way you can be cool when handing out cash tips.
I do all my banking online. My bank doesn't have any local branches. Seriously, who has cash anymore?
There is a worldwide network of machines that do nothing but give cash out from your bank account. Judging by the number of them I'd wager that almost everyone has cash.
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I address that later in my comment... Is this a function of schooling? MBA programs? Corporatism?
I mean ultimately it's the executives that call the shots. I've seen people stand up to executives over things like this and then they get fired and it's business as usual. Most people aren't willing to risk their jobs over screwing over gig workers, especially when you feel powerless to actually stop it from happening. I mean it's so socially acceptable we've even coined the term "gig economy" Chances are the people…
Most people aren't willing to risk their jobs over screwing over gig workers
Ironic that they may have ended doing long term damage to their careers as a result.
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#66The minute I figured out you can adjust the Instacart fee to zero I did, and leave a fiver for the delivery person.
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#67This is a great example in my opinion of the apathy we need to combat as technologists. Why did NO ONE in any meetings when designing this "feature" or process say anything? "This is wrong/greedy/will have blowback." No one voiced concerns? Or, more specifically, if they did, no one listened? They didn't think this would leak out, with all the hatred regarding wage stagnation, income inequality, corporate greed? A ma…
> Why did NO ONE in any meetings when designing this "feature" or process say anything?
That person probably did speak up, which was probably followed by that person getting pushed out and/or quitting. When some greedy jackass with questionable ideas on how a business should be run gets into a position of power, capable people who dont agree with Captain Jackass aren't going on Captain's team very long.
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#68200 dollars a day delivering packages? Yeah, that's not going to last, sorry.
Do you think they should be getting more or less?
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#69This is a great example in my opinion of the apathy we need to combat as technologists. Why did NO ONE in any meetings when designing this "feature" or process say anything? "This is wrong/greedy/will have blowback." No one voiced concerns? Or, more specifically, if they did, no one listened? They didn't think this would leak out, with all the hatred regarding wage stagnation, income inequality, corporate greed? A ma…
> Why did NO ONE in any meetings when designing this "feature" or process say anything? Who's to say someone didn't? All we know is they decided to steal tips, not that everyone thought it was a great idea.
I think it is more, "Why does this keep happening?" and "What can we do to stop it?"
Re: Instacart and DoorDash’s Tip Policies Are Delivering Outrage
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Instacart workers have urged customers not to boycott the company, which would cut even further into their earnings.
This is exactly why I don't boycott WalMart. Because as abhorrent and their policies are, the last thing I want to do is put some poor person barely scraping by out of a job. The solution here is not to boycott these places, it's to use your power to lobby for better laws to protect the workers, which will apply evenly to all companies, including future companies that might try to take advantage of people.
They'll get their jobs back pretty quick. Wal-Mart is pretty good about recognizing problems within a Q or two and 'fixing' the issue