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What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by giancarlostoro »

felixfoertsch wrote: post #4

I love reading about EvE once in a while. It's almost as if there were a completely different space world out there with unlimited freedom and unlimited possibilities. I always feel the urge to join this world and explore it -- but then I come to the realization that it probably needs an exuberant amount of time and dedication to partake in these news worthy event and that most of the time it's probably a grind.

I feel the same way. I spent a good amount of time playing some online games throughout my youth, I still remember playing StarCraft and StarCraft: Brood War. So much fun. Now I don't have time for the free re-make either sadly, or SC2. Becoming an adult sucks. :)

It's either spend the little free time I have coding and sharpening my skills, or goofing off in a virtual reality. To be fair I do play games now and then, but it's not the same as when I was 17 and out of high school.

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by Sebb767 »

close04 wrote: post #7
felixfoertsch wrote: post #4

I love reading about EvE once in a while. It's almost as if there were a completely different space world out there with unlimited freedom and unlimited possibilities. I always feel the urge to join this world and explore it -- but then I come to the realization that it probably needs an exuberant amount of time and dedication to partake in these news worthy event and that most of the time it's probably a grind.

Off topic question, is the name EVE or EvE? Usually the small "v" would denote a "versus". Is there a backstory to the name? Never actually played it but I was always fascinated by the the extent to which the devs went to capture real life interactions inside the game. Now I'm fascinated by the extent to which the article's author went to capture game interactions in real life.

According to Wikipedia[0], it's EVE Online. I couldn't find any notes on where the name came from, however.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by runyor »

felixfoertsch wrote: post #4

I love reading about EvE once in a while. It's almost as if there were a completely different space world out there with unlimited freedom and unlimited possibilities. I always feel the urge to join this world and explore it -- but then I come to the realization that it probably needs an exuberant amount of time and dedication to partake in these news worthy event and that most of the time it's probably a grind.

My problem with eve is that you think "oh this career path might be interesting", and then either you invest $300 or spend 3 months training in that direction, BEFORE YOU CAN TRY IT! Usually try or not is something a human wants to decide in a few days if he's patient.

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by ethbro »

kkarakk wrote: post #9
barry0079 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since I got a job I haven't had time for it. It really is a full time job to play, I noticed a lot of people who would play from work with cushy IT jobs.

Games as a service tend to optimise for these kinds of players because they are the whales that pour obscene amounts of money into the game. it's part of why i refuse to buy into any game that sells itself as a "platform". also the balance tends to suck in these games - how do you balance for someone who can basically put 8 hours a day every day in the game and someone who can log on for maybe 2 hours a week(if they'…

> also i may be nitpicking at this point but eve hasn't really evolved their tech stack for how popular they are

The last I heard (~10 years ago), they were heavily into Stackless Python. And I believe they did things since then (micro-sharding zones and global time dilation?).

There's only so many things you can do with a real-time single world with arbitrary 3D positioning.

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by dsjoerg »

felixfoertsch wrote: post #4

I love reading about EvE once in a while. It's almost as if there were a completely different space world out there with unlimited freedom and unlimited possibilities. I always feel the urge to join this world and explore it -- but then I come to the realization that it probably needs an exuberant amount of time and dedication to partake in these news worthy event and that most of the time it's probably a grind.

There’s a famous quote about the nature of war that applies to EVE as well: “Vast stretches of tedium punctuated by moments of extreme terror.” --https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/07/23/hundreds-of-pilo...

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by skocznymroczny »

kkarakk wrote: post #9
barry0079 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ever since I got a job I haven't had time for it. It really is a full time job to play, I noticed a lot of people who would play from work with cushy IT jobs.

Games as a service tend to optimise for these kinds of players because they are the whales that pour obscene amounts of money into the game. it's part of why i refuse to buy into any game that sells itself as a "platform". also the balance tends to suck in these games - how do you balance for someone who can basically put 8 hours a day every day in the game and someone who can log on for maybe 2 hours a week(if they'…

It's possible to balance this with proper game design. Look at Guild Wars 1 for example. Most of the content comes in small 0.5-1h pieces in form of missions, so a casual player can advance at his own pace. The "power" of gear quickly evens out, and what remains afterwards is gathering better looking weapons/armor (even though their stats are identical to the cheap weapons/armor). Even then, a casual player can just focus on getting and using the items that look cool to him, while a hardcore player can work on getting all the possible cool items, just in case or to use as achievements to show off.

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by edouard-harris »

runyor wrote: post #14
felixfoertsch wrote: post #4

I love reading about EvE once in a while. It's almost as if there were a completely different space world out there with unlimited freedom and unlimited possibilities. I always feel the urge to join this world and explore it -- but then I come to the realization that it probably needs an exuberant amount of time and dedication to partake in these news worthy event and that most of the time it's probably a grind.

My problem with eve is that you think "oh this career path might be interesting", and then either you invest $300 or spend 3 months training in that direction, BEFORE YOU CAN TRY IT! Usually try or not is something a human wants to decide in a few days if he's patient.

For what it's worth, this is also a problem with career paths in the real world.

Re: What would a EvE online Internet look like?

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Post by stereographic »

Sebb767 wrote: post #12
close04 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic question, is the name EVE or EvE? Usually the small "v" would denote a "versus". Is there a backstory to the name? Never actually played it but I was always fascinated by the the extent to which the devs went to capture real life interactions inside the game. Now I'm fascinated by the extent to which the article's author went to capture game interactions in real life.

According to Wikipedia[0], it's EVE Online. I couldn't find any notes on where the name came from, however. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online

EVE is just the name of an area in the game where humans came through into this "new world". https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_Gate

The game has a serious amount of lore behind it and it's been years since I played so I may be over generalising

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