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Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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I've been living in a shuttle bus I converted for about 20 months. I built it to be like a high end RV, with everything you'd expect in an RV but with lithium batteries and a solar array. I did it for two reasons, so I could own a home with minimal expenses and so I could take my home and dog when I travel. My cost of living is significantly lower than living in conventional housing. I estimate I've spent around $50k…

Can you get letters delivered? What address does the government think you live at? (If that's required for them to know where you're from.)

I've been using the same UPS Store box for my mail since 2011 so moving from a house to my bus didn't change how I deal with it.

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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I've already done the rough math. It'd use a Northern Tool 5x8 trailer that costs $550 or less on sale. The $1000 price point is for a basic box to sleep in and store possessions. There would be additional plans for larger builds and more amenities for people with a larger budget. No welding necessary, only basic wood construction.

That's not a trailer home, that's a dirtbag camper. It's a fairly mature market, and FWIW basic wood builds tend to wind up being too heavy to tow with a small car.

What is a "dirtbag camper"?

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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>debt The concept of "tiny house" romanticizes a small budget. Poorer people get smaller houses.

This isn't true. Poorer people have fewer assets. You can live in a smaller space and still be wealthy in terms of assets.

>This isn't true. //

In general wealth doesn't correlate with van/trailer/home size?

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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post #216

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That's not a trailer home, that's a dirtbag camper. It's a fairly mature market, and FWIW basic wood builds tend to wind up being too heavy to tow with a small car.

What is a "dirtbag camper"?

Dirtbag is rock climber slang for someone living life on the road ultra-cheap.

Camper, i.e. RV, popup, teardrop, etc.

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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Blu Homes (from their website) are from $200K - $550K. That might sound cheap in some areas but if you're comparing to a traditional "manufactured home" it's close to an order of magnitude higher.

Absolutely. It is "cheap" when the median price of a home is $1.5M it is "expensive" when the median price of a home is $150K. The point though is that it addresses the 'variation in pre-manufactured homes' question. There are people out there building pre-manufactured homes, that mix up the formula with high end amenities. As I see it, there are two vectors on these things, their shapes, and what you can get inside…

The market value and construction cost are two very different things.

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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Modular homes are virtually indistinguishable from ground-up-stick-built homes, and are most definitely not prefabs. https://www.wausauhomes.com/ and http://www.wisconsinhomesinc.com/ are a pretty good example of what you can do. Either they typically ship in 3-6 sections and are stitched together on-site by your framers, electricians and plumbers, or they ship wall and roof segments that take 2-5 days to stitch toge…

Modular homes that are not stick-built onsite tend to appreciate a lot less. And if your assessor or appraiser categorizes it as a manufactured home it is even less. Try to sell one to find out how much of a local stigma they have, even though they are perfectly fine and are usually built out of 2x4s too. But I heard people saying they don't shop at Ikea because it is a "cookie cutter" store. Buying a house is often…

Buying a house is often a status issue.

If the Tech Worker class wants to do the world some good, then bucking the "stick-built in the dirt" expectations of society would seem to be an area where we could do a lot of good. If we as a buying cohort gave such homes cachet through economic and social power, then the cost of building homes and new housing stock would be reduced through modern manufacturing and economies of scale. More people would be able to buy higher quality homes for less, all up and down the socioeconomic ladder.

Re: Small World: The Tiny House Trend

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What is a "dirtbag camper"?

Dirtbag is rock climber slang for someone living life on the road ultra-cheap. Camper, i.e. RV, popup, teardrop, etc.

Thanks! I suspected it had some kind of niche connotation.
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