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Sorry if I misunderstand, but are you suggesting that these forces are not active on HN?
They're more effective on a non-technical user-base where a larger fraction of users are unaware or less aware of those techniques.
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I think we'll see something eventually. There's too much money there and there isn't much of reddit that isn't copyable.
I think 100 million users is harder to copy than you think.
If you really want an alternative, convince Musk to do it (or bless yours) and tweet it out. Even then I bet it would take years to match Reddit, and it may or may not ever actually exceed it.
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I've seen this comment more recently. I just thought he was a notorious reposter. What specifically is bad about him? (I often don't mind reposts when it's a first time for me..)
'He' is probably a small team of people using that account to repost paid content. There are dozens of massive accounts like this, I wish I had a comprehensive list to filter them all without going through user history one by one.
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>Is the problem with that that it becomes too easy to doxx someone? That we like having a centralized authority that we can "trust" for authentication / authorization / pseudo-anonymity? Dox, send child pornography through, use to sell narcotics, plan hitman assassinations with, etc, etc. Not to mention all the fun stuff organized bands of miscreants can do to other people. Just look at Wil Wheaton's adventure with M…
So, I happen to believe in government regulation. Is your assertion that in the predator-prey relationship of free speech vs speech regulation, that the government cannot possibly keep up? That any (new?) forms of communication will enable people to engage in illegal speech, and so therefore are bad? I'm not trying to egg you on, I'm genuinely curious what you think our attitude should be.
As for the government, I believe the government is fallible, corruptible and that privacy has value. The government can keep up but in doing so you tend to lose more freedom than you had before. For example, Australia's new laws on encryption which would, combined with mass traffic surveillance, lets them know everything you say. So I'd prefer the government not care enough to actually solve the speed regulation problem because doing so puts dangerously much power in it's hands.
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As soon as a viable alternative pops up that doesn't seem tailor made for racists, I'm there. So far every competitor I've seen pop up seems to think Reddit's biggest problem is their (rather weak) stance against hate speech and user harassment, and not all the actual problems being discussed here.
There was an attempt a few years ago to do just this. Remember Imzy? If the answer is "no," you're probably not alone; it shut down after only two years of operation. They didn't have any of the problems that we're discussing here, as far as I remember. (Personally, I suspect its extremely weird and confusing UX design was at least part of what did it in; I found its navigation so baffling I gave up pretty quickly.)
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>the platform itself hosts tons of alt-right, incel, racist, sexist, and violent content. This is despite being pretty ban-happy in general about topics they don't like. So now they've got the worst of a censorship-heavy platform and the worst of a censorship-free platform.
> This is despite being pretty ban-happy in general about topics they don't like. So now they've got the worst of a censorship-heavy platform and the worst of a censorship-free platform. I think you have to separate the admins, who are reddit employees, and the subreddit moderators, who are mostly not. The admins are ultimately accountable to the CEO, who is accountable to the board and, by extension, the investors.…
Admins created automod which delegated shadowbanning to moderators. Who's to blame for that? The mods or the admins? It's an age-old question whether kings or peasants are to blame for humanity's imperfections.
Some mods probably would have scripted something themselves, yet admins helped them and others along. You can go in circles trying to assign blame. I'm not sure there's an answer except to continue to try making it better.
It amazes me the kind of sheer incompetency their product team has demonstrated over the past 2-3 years. (Edit - as pointed out in replies to this post, this is an unfair characterization fueled by my recent frustrations with the direction the site is going. I don't think it is unreasonable to point out that reddit is failing the expectations of their users, but I don't doubt for a minute that the individuals working…
I know someone worked for reddit for a while last year (they don't anymore because they hated every second of it) and from what I understand the engineering teams there are a nightmare of groups that don't talk to each other, constantly write the same code in completely different ways, have no common style and just shoehorn in whatever they want. Everything breaks pretty much all the time. All of that is aside from t…
To their credit, they got rid of the "incel" stuff pretty quickly after it became basically-synonymous with "dangerously violent male-supremacist cult" (it used to just be "losers who can't relate with the opposite sex, and seem to be weirdly proud of this fact"). A similar story holds for the racist content.
Closing down a forum with thousands of users just because of the attitudes of a handful of them is, well, retarded.
For the record, this is the current incel sub: https://old.reddit.com/r/Braincels/
