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MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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Here’s the CMU equivalent course, which interestingly was also designed by students: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~15131/f17/

CMU did (maybe still does?) have a mandatory, once-a-week course to orient new students to logging in to *nix workstations, setting file permissions and copying files around on AFS, etc. Whether this was just for CIT or university-wide I cannot recall.

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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The equivalent UCLA course is CS35L: Software Construction Laboratory ( https://web.cs.ucla.edu/classes/winter19/cs35L/ ). It's taught by Paul Eggert (big open source/coreutils/emacs contributor + author of diff/sort).

Paul Eggert is also the maintainer of the timezone database and designer of the uniform naming convention for time zones, such as America/New_York and Europe/Paris.

What a champ!

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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post #12

> https://hacker-tools.github.io/lectures/ Literally none of these have anything to do with proper information security/hacking/penetration testing. Will you please consider to stop abusing the term "hacker"?

https://www.etymonline.com/word/hack#etymonline_v_1359

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...[universities] often leave it to students to figure out a lot of the common knowledge about how to actually use your computer. Now I'm out in the real world (MIT class of '86!) I think this is more of an MIT thing -- many graduates of other schools get explicit training in things that the MIT faculty, fairly or not, assumes students will simply pick up. And this is despite the heavy emphasis on actually doing st…

> many graduates of other schools get explicit training in things that the MIT faculty, fairly or not, assumes students will simply pick up. And this is despite the heavy emphasis on actually doing stuff, uh...I graduated from a low tier state school that was notable in our state for focusing on practical matters....and we didn't get 'explicitly trained' on this either. Most people do just pick it up.

Well, I appears from my experience a surprising number of MIT students don’t, making this mini-course popular.

As an MIT grad myself I should be biased to think otherwise, and I certainly hope the credential stands for something good. But I haven’t found much difference in programmers 5 years out of school — it’s been attitude that has mattered more.

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...[universities] often leave it to students to figure out a lot of the common knowledge about how to actually use your computer. Now I'm out in the real world (MIT class of '86!) I think this is more of an MIT thing -- many graduates of other schools get explicit training in things that the MIT faculty, fairly or not, assumes students will simply pick up. And this is despite the heavy emphasis on actually doing st…

I graduated from a low-tier state school and after reviewing MIT's course materials along the way, I feel the opposite. Sure there wasn't a class, but plenty was covered explicitly in the homework and labs.

All I can say is, despite my pro-MIT bias, my experience has been at best mixed, on this dimension.

(BTW, among things I’m glad that MIT has done, open courseware is top of my list. Glad you used it!)

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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post #12

> https://hacker-tools.github.io/lectures/ Literally none of these have anything to do with proper information security/hacking/penetration testing. Will you please consider to stop abusing the term "hacker"?

It is you that should consider to stop shoehorning a term with now two common meanings into the one that you prefer. Once upon a time hacker meant nothing of what you are referring to, now it is 'dual use', no need to go overboard in the other direction and forbid the original one. For reference see 'The hacker from MIT'.

Re: MIT Hacker Tools: a lecture series on programmer tools

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post #22
post #11

Here’s the CMU equivalent course, which interestingly was also designed by students: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~15131/f17/

CMU did (maybe still does?) have a mandatory, once-a-week course to orient new students to logging in to *nix workstations, setting file permissions and copying files around on AFS, etc. Whether this was just for CIT or university-wide I cannot recall.

Didn't they recently nuke the unix infrastructure and replace it with cloud services? Or have reports been exaggerated?
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