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Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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> It also prevents any developer, researcher, or organization to develop tools, critical insights, and research designed to educate and empower users to understand and therefore resist targeted disinformation campaigns.

Is Mozilla building some sort of visualization tool for the marketing done on the upcoming EU elections?

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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> It also prevents any developer, researcher, or organization to develop tools, critical insights, and research designed to educate and empower users to understand and therefore resist targeted disinformation campaigns. Is Mozilla building some sort of visualization tool for the marketing done on the upcoming EU elections?

Maybe, maybe not. But I have a number of academic colleagues working on marketing/news/misinformation on online platforms, and Facebook has always been a problem for analysis. It's next to impossible to get raw data unless you're Facebook, which makes investigating these questions very difficult.

For comparison, Twitter is comparatively easy to work with (though getting harder as time goes on) and Reddit is very open. This is one reason why there are lots of papers based on Twitter data and very few based on analyses of Facebook.

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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> It also prevents any developer, researcher, or organization to develop tools, critical insights, and research designed to educate and empower users to understand and therefore resist targeted disinformation campaigns. Is Mozilla building some sort of visualization tool for the marketing done on the upcoming EU elections?

Maybe, maybe not. But I have a number of academic colleagues working on marketing/news/misinformation on online platforms, and Facebook has always been a problem for analysis. It's next to impossible to get raw data unless you're Facebook, which makes investigating these questions very difficult. For comparison, Twitter is comparatively easy to work with (though getting harder as time goes on) and Reddit is very open…

Any legitimate reasons for not allowing access to raw data? Could it violate people's privacy for example?

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Facebook is right to point out here that scraping data from their users' logged-in pages puts their privacy at risk and makes Facebook liable for it, even if there is consent (as happened in the cambridge analytica thing). There is clearly a conflict with EU's own laws here.

Also, don't forget that EU elections are nothing like federal elections, these are local elections which reflect each country's national politics rather than anything EU-wide. And, based on previous elections, i have found individual candidates themselves to be major violators of anti-spam laws.

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Since the former CEO of Mozilla left, Mozilla has installed plugins without users’ permission, made terrible commercial recommendations to companies they had commercial ties to, but no transparency, and if you review their code, it is littered with telemetry.

Mozilla is no longer the Mozilla we once knew.

It’s high time we fork it.

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Facebook is right to point out here that scraping data from their users' logged-in pages puts their privacy at risk and makes Facebook liable for it, even if there is consent (as happened in the cambridge analytica thing). There is clearly a conflict with EU's own laws here. Also, don't forget that EU elections are nothing like federal elections, these are local elections which reflect each country's national politic…

Sorry, did you mean Mozilla is right to point out?

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, maybe not. But I have a number of academic colleagues working on marketing/news/misinformation on online platforms, and Facebook has always been a problem for analysis. It's next to impossible to get raw data unless you're Facebook, which makes investigating these questions very difficult. For comparison, Twitter is comparatively easy to work with (though getting harder as time goes on) and Reddit is very open…

Any legitimate reasons for not allowing access to raw data? Could it violate people's privacy for example?

I'm sure it could, but of course you can always anonymise data first. In any case it seems a bit rich for facebook to restrict access due to privacy concerns, in reality the issues is likely that reason is simply that academics can't pay as well as ad agencies.

Re: Mozilla Raises Concerns Over Facebook’s Lack of Transparency

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Facebook is right to point out here that scraping data from their users' logged-in pages puts their privacy at risk and makes Facebook liable for it, even if there is consent (as happened in the cambridge analytica thing). There is clearly a conflict with EU's own laws here. Also, don't forget that EU elections are nothing like federal elections, these are local elections which reflect each country's national politic…

Sorry, did you mean Mozilla is right to point out?

no, facebook.
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