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Chinese New Year Is World’s Biggest Human Migration

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See the reactions to this post and those from PH Internet usage. I just cannot ignore the stark stereotype contrast...

> See the reactions to this post and those from PH Internet usage. I just cannot ignore the stark stereotype contrast...

Could you explain? I don't get what's stark, nor the stereotypes about reactions.

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I still remember there was an article about the largest human made DDoS attack on the China Railway Ticket System. When you literally have few hundred million people all trying to access the system at midnight. The ticket system was at one point built on Ruby Rails, but I think it quickly moved to something else before moving to Go.

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In other news, protests in Hong Kong over Chinese tourists. "We don’t want your money: Chinese shoppers told to spend cash elsewhere by frustrated Hongkongers who just want some peace and quiet" https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/articl... Also, Bloomberg is really the worst with clickbait titles.

Sometimes I blame this on Government. They are by far the worst Government in any developed cities. They want more tourist and yet they don't build any more infrastructure. Frustration mounted and some blame are then being pointed to Chinese Tourist.

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In other news, protests in Hong Kong over Chinese tourists. "We don’t want your money: Chinese shoppers told to spend cash elsewhere by frustrated Hongkongers who just want some peace and quiet" https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/articl... Also, Bloomberg is really the worst with clickbait titles.

peace and quiet... HK? Well, haters take their own shares. However HK cannot make money from peace and quiet to make it sustainable. According to Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Hong_Kong#GDP[45] ), Tourism is 5% of the GDP and I believe a big chunk of that is contributed by people from mainland.

I highly doubt if it's only 5%. A mainlander goes to HK, buys Rolex and new iPhone. Wears the Rolex and switches to the new iPhone. Goes back to mainland without declaring anything. How do these numbers end up in official statistics for tourism? Or it could be the other way round: HK resident buys Rolex and iPhone, sells in mainland thus making money.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

peace and quiet... HK? Well, haters take their own shares. However HK cannot make money from peace and quiet to make it sustainable. According to Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Hong_Kong#GDP[45] ), Tourism is 5% of the GDP and I believe a big chunk of that is contributed by people from mainland.

I highly doubt if it's only 5%. A mainlander goes to HK, buys Rolex and new iPhone. Wears the Rolex and switches to the new iPhone. Goes back to mainland without declaring anything. How do these numbers end up in official statistics for tourism? Or it could be the other way round: HK resident buys Rolex and iPhone, sells in mainland thus making money.

Unless the Rolex and iPhone are made in Hong Kong, only the wholesale and retail margin would show up in GDP.

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post #22

I still remember there was an article about the largest human made DDoS attack on the China Railway Ticket System. When you literally have few hundred million people all trying to access the system at midnight. The ticket system was at one point built on Ruby Rails, but I think it quickly moved to something else before moving to Go.

The online booking site had the hardest captchas I've ever seen. One time I was having difficulty and asked a couple of colleagues to help. Even they (well-educated native Chinese) got it wrong one time.

This article has some examples: https://www.techinasia.com/chinas-train-ticket-site-image-ca...

Other than the captcha, the site works well, although it's not pretty.

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That's amazing. I always assumed that the Hajj to Mecca was the largest.

Checkout Kumbh Mela, India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbh_Mela) going on right now. It happens every 6/12 years. In 2013, 120 million pilgrims attended it over period of 30-40 days.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

peace and quiet... HK? Well, haters take their own shares. However HK cannot make money from peace and quiet to make it sustainable. According to Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Hong_Kong#GDP[45] ), Tourism is 5% of the GDP and I believe a big chunk of that is contributed by people from mainland.

I highly doubt if it's only 5%. A mainlander goes to HK, buys Rolex and new iPhone. Wears the Rolex and switches to the new iPhone. Goes back to mainland without declaring anything. How do these numbers end up in official statistics for tourism? Or it could be the other way round: HK resident buys Rolex and iPhone, sells in mainland thus making money.

We are one of the financial capitals of Asia and a significant amount of goods departing China to the West go via our city.

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I highly recommend the documentary Last Train Home. It follows a Chinese family - the parents leave their children in their rural village to go off in search of work. They make the annual trip back to see them for Chinese New Year. The film captures the awesome scale of the migration and its cultural importance, as well as the social impact of China's urbanization. It's really devastating.

I have seen this documentary a few years ago and still think about it on a monthly basis or whenever someone refers about Chinese workers. Really impactful.

There is definitely a lot of misunderstanding between Chinese and American peoples. They are a lot more similar than most understand. And when people say something could "only" be done in one country or the other, they are usually grossly mistaken.

The governments are different though. And China's problem of keeping everyone employed and having bright enough futures that they won't revolt is far greater and more urgent than the US's, it doesn't mean the US doesn't have the problem. A lot of the reason for wage stagnation in the US is because profits were diverted and invested in China to help growth there. The profits from those ventures ended up staying in China where it fueled a boom, but even then it was only a fraction of what is needed to get everyone employed in jobs with future growth potential. If it slows enougb to start failing, it has the potential, with so many people, to be pretty nasty.

I think China is a pretty fascinating place, with definite problems, but still pretty fascinating.

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