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Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by aaronmdjones » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:13 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #26

maximente wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hard to parse this statement, since the software itself is doing the lion share of making the router "good" (unless you mean wireless g/n support or something?) i've used this project to put new life into a Buffalo router that's probably 10 years old and runs way cooler and more performant than the original firmware. same with an ASUS router that's probably 6 or 7 years old.

Hardware is quite important; wireless standards keep evolving, some people care about how many ethernet ports they have, and system details (CPU, RAM, flash memory) determine performance and features (you lose a lot trying to fit your system in 32MB of flash).

Surely you mean you lose a lot trying to fit your system in 4MiB of flash, seeing as the stock images will flash to any 8MiB device with plenty of space left for configuration and the odd extra package or seven.

My grandmother has a SiteCom WLR-4000 (aka SiteCom WL-351, aka EnGenius ESR9850) and that has a 4MiB flash chip; building OpenWRT for it is a pain, but I can still get a flashable image that does everything I need it to do, including the stock web interface (LuCI), with 100k left for persistent configuration data.

It even has WireGuard (kmod-wireguard, luci-app-wireguard, luci-proto-wireguard) on it for a bridge to my router at my home.

When it breaks, or if I ever upgrade my WNDR3800, I'll give that to her. But for the time being it's still perfectly serviceable.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by ac29 » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:22 PM UTC

DaniloDias wrote: post #50

Can anyone recommend a good SoC to start playing with OpenWRT development?

AR9331 is well supported and dirt cheap.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by fencepost » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

milankragujevic wrote: post #75

venj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

have a look at ubiquiti routers: their edge router lite is capable of handling gbit, and can protect against buffer bloat at up to 100mbits/sec. the only doznside is that they are harder to manage than the average consumer router They cost about $100

will do, that and mikrotik. i think i can manage managing it fine, i've worked a small bit with mikrotik

For that matter, it looks like most of the Mikrotik routers can actually have OpenWRT installed on them, though not all of them have device-specific pages in https://openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_available_864?dataflt%5BBr...

Edit: wups, misremembered Serbia as Slovenia. More like 160 Euro in Serbia: http://www.sampro.rs/Proizvod.aspx?kid=162&pid=33332&name=Mi...

Edit2: Arrgh, and didn't read far enough on the thread before sticking my foot in it where you otherwise discuss the Mikrotiks.

(previously) Going up to the question of Slovenia higher in the thread, there's a Slovenian vendor who has the "hAP ac" (dual band, gigabit, SFP, USB port) for 121 Euro (https://www.virtua-it.si/izdelek/mikrotik-routerboard-hap-ac...) along with other less-capable and cheaper models.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by mobilio » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 10:14 PM UTC

DaniloDias wrote: post #50

Can anyone recommend a good SoC to start playing with OpenWRT development?

Router like TP-Link WR-741 is good one.

I found routers on local classifieds for $5.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by zamadatix » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

bdz wrote: post #20

zamadatix wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of "hundreds" I see 5-7 that look like decent home wireless routers at first glance (4+ gigabit ports, available new, b/g/n/ac, no unsupported hardware when running OpenWRT, Based on that the original statement "I still don’t know any good reasonably priced routers which supports Openwrt." is very understandable. A lot of rows != an easy list of good routers.

Xiaomi Mi WiFi is the best cheap with OpenWRT support https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Xiaomi-WIFI-Router-3-ROM-128...

Is this a joke? The WAN and LAN ports (all 2 of them) are 100 megabit.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by mobilio » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 10:17 PM UTC

webmobdev wrote: post #9

I use DD-WRT. How does OpenWRT compare to it?

DD-WRT comes with GUI built-in.

OpenWRT comes with command line interfaces and you need to be experienced on that.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by mobilio » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 10:18 PM UTC

platz wrote: post #5

still running DD-WRT on an ancient Linksys WRT54GL

Still using WRT54GL, but revert it to stock firmware.

Seems that new WRT like firmwares require more ram than built 16MB.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by platz » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 10:45 PM UTC

mobilio wrote: post #87

platz wrote: post #5

still running DD-WRT on an ancient Linksys WRT54GL

Still using WRT54GL, but revert it to stock firmware. Seems that new WRT like firmwares require more ram than built 16MB.

use the mini build

ftp://ftp.dd-wrt.com/betas/2019/01-29-2019-r38507/broadcom/ dd-wrt.v24_mini_wrt54g

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by tapper82 » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 11:02 PM UTC

mobilio wrote: post #86

webmobdev wrote: post #9

I use DD-WRT. How does OpenWRT compare to it?

DD-WRT comes with GUI built-in. OpenWRT comes with command line interfaces and you need to be experienced on that.

OpenWrt comes with a gui to. It's called LUCI.

Re: Openwrt 18.06.2 released

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Post by 3xblah » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 11:05 PM UTC

sexyrouter wrote: post #57

bubblethink wrote: post #14

Openwrt is so nice. Despite small teams and budgets, they power so many routers and are also good at research and new features. The sqm/fq_codel stuff alone makes it worth running openwrt. If you are not familiar with it, go to dslreports.com and run a speedtest. If you get a poor bufferbloat score, openwrt can help. A lot of vendors (even big enterprise ones) use openwrt builds for their products, but don't provide…

After getting my TPlink router bricked and not having soldering skills for Serial UART. I got fed up and built my own router which never gets bricked: I bought Orange Pi3 (38 USD) from AliExpress. Orange Pi 3 H6 2GB LPDDR3 8GB EMMC Flash Gigabyte Ethernet Port AP6256 WIFI BT5.0 4*USB3.0 Support Android 7.0, Ubuntu, Debian https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bfPcZFXS It has Gigabyte ethernet Port and USB3 capable of deli…

This is a provocative comment although it begs the question:

Can you easily run OpenWRT on Orange PI 3 immediately after purchase?

If not, I think that could be a factor in why someone might pay more. They might want to leverage the work of OpenWRT developers.

I too recently picked up another pocket-sized SBC with Gigabit Ethernet. Compared to Orange Pi 3 it has two additional Ethernet ports, better antennas (no dongle needed), more TF card storage (128GB vs 64GB), well-tested OpenWRT support and everything to build from scratch is on Github. Like Orange Pi 3 it uses U-boot and one can easily recover from accidental bricking without opening it up.

Also has customer support, automatic updates and an additional GUI which are not things I needed but probably increased the price.

Orange Pi 3 has a GPU, HDMI port and jacks for audio and composite video. Is the buyer intending to "build a custom router" paying for specs she does not need?

What is the estimated power consumption for Orange Pi 3?

What are some examples of "overpriced routers"?

Imagine for the sake of argument we posted specs for various SBC's here without giving the "brand name" and let readers bid on what they would be willing to pay. Assuming readers could not see each others' bids, how widely would the bids vary?

Is each spec worth the same to each buyer? Do all buyers have exactly the same needs?