I've had an idea for an adult oriented app, that many many people have told me they'd pay for and support, but it'd need push notifications to work (preventing it from working in a browser), and Apple is such a walled garden that you can't even sideload an app the way you can in Android (or any desktop OS). It's quite frustrating to see the way they get to shape culture.
Sex censorship killed the internet we love
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#322I find the US prudishness thing so fascinating. I'm travelling at the moment, and meeting lots of Americans (and Europeans for contrast). There's definitely a huge difference in tolerance for swearing and blasphemy. Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. I guess it all comes down to the religion. Americans do seem to be more religiou…
>and the Christian Church has always taught that sex should only be for procreation // What's your basis for saying that? Certainly Song of Songs (in the OT) presents erotic intimacy in a positive manner, and does not to my recollection mention procreation.
>Certainly Song of Songs (in the OT) presents erotic intimacy in a positive manner, and does not to my recollection mention procreation.
Shir haShirim is a Jewish text. Christians sort of awkwardly avoid bringing it up, because, well, yeah, it's ancient Hebrew erotic poetry.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is almost too much ridiculousness in these two sentences to unpack. From the notion that American hegemony suddenly began post-9/11, rather than 70 years ago. To the assertion that Google is deliberately biased toward violence over sex. The " America == bad, anything I don't like about my country == also America " mindset is a disingenuous rejection of agency. There are a lot of things going on the world today.…
> There is almost too much ridiculousness in these two sentences to unpack. From the notion that American hegemony suddenly began post-9/11, rather than 70 years ago. That's when online streaming started picking up steam. I think the OP is spot on that American culture influence would shift social mores, because mostly youth consume this content and then 10-20 years later, they're adults directing policy. Edit: fixed…
Social moors would be either an open field for gathering or friendly Muslims from the Mediterranean region about 800 years ago. You might mean ‘mores’.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lust is considered one of the deadly sins. I'm not sure where the line between "lust" and "acceptable desire" is, and I suspect most Christians aren't either - although marriage and procreation usually seem to be involved somewhere. There are far more unconditionally sex-positive religions.
From a theological perspective (which may be different from the social norms that a given church teaches) I think the answer would be that it is bad if it is outside of marriage, not done in love (e.g. objectifying someone), or if it becomes more important to someone than God (which would be considered idolatry).
It is bad... It is good... Why is it okay to treat people with such heavy handed authoritarianism. I wish more explanation was given.
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#325The sex-bad-violence-good meme confused me at least since I became aware of its existence aged about 14. I was 16 when I got a letter published in a UK national newspaper on this topic, pointing out the absurdity that deliberate murder could be shown in a cartoon aimed specifically at young kids (i.e. BBFC rating Uc), but people “my own age”[1] couldn’t see pictures of uncensored sex even though we could legally[1] p…
I think a lot of it's for the kids. Kids are naturally violent but shouldn't be having sex.
Kids shouldn’t really be violent, both in their childhood and throughout the rest of their lives.
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#326I've had an idea for an adult oriented app, that many many people have told me they'd pay for and support, but it'd need push notifications to work (preventing it from working in a browser), and Apple is such a walled garden that you can't even sideload an app the way you can in Android (or any desktop OS). It's quite frustrating to see the way they get to shape culture.
You can sideload on iOS but it’s annoying and you’re not likely to get paying customers to jump through the necessary hoops.
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#327I find the US prudishness thing so fascinating. I'm travelling at the moment, and meeting lots of Americans (and Europeans for contrast). There's definitely a huge difference in tolerance for swearing and blasphemy. Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. I guess it all comes down to the religion. Americans do seem to be more religiou…
>Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. Bring up Muslims or Roma people to a European and you'll find this isn't a uniquely American problem.
Whoah there. Just because the parent is painting all Americans with one brush doesn't mean we have to reciprocate.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
One real-world example is Coca Cola [0]. While most of the consumers probably don't care, influence of a small but committed minority made Coca Cola kosher, halal, and vegan. [0] https://www.sciencehistory.org/distillations/magazine/the-re...
I'm not sure veganism counts as a superstition.
There are many people who are vegans for religious reasons, just like other religious dietary restrictions.
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#329Again and again I see the comments of how crazy it is that we allow violence in films/TV/anywhere, but not sex which is peaceful and harmless -- as if this were some kind of idiocy or hypocrisy.
There's a good reason we try to draw lines between areas where sex is "allowed" and "not allowed" -- because it's arousing and has the potential to be greatly embarrassing. It's private, in a way that violence isn't. I seriously don't get how so many people seem to willfully ignore this.
When I Google something in a meeting or in front of my mother, I do not want sexual results to appear because some term has an alternate meaning. When I watch a movie with my parents, nobody's going to squirm from the violence, but we certainly don't want to watch a steamy sex scene together. That's just how human beings are wired. We're not prudes, there's just a time and a place.
So having major internet services like Google and Facebook default to being non-sexual seems like a pretty smart move to me. And then there are still countless sites on the internet devoted entirely to sex. Keeping them largely separated seems smart. And while what happened to Tumblr was very sad, I'm sure other sites will replace it... it's the internet after all.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. Bring up Muslims or Roma people to a European and you'll find this isn't a uniquely American problem.
Whoah there. Just because the parent is painting all Americans with one brush doesn't mean we have to reciprocate.
Then again that bit about the Roma is somewhat accurate.
On the other hand majority of the Roma refuse to assimilate, and on a much deeper level than pretty much any immigrant at that, so it's possible to imagine why this prejudice lives on.