If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
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Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#2> It’s not my fault she’s gone, that all 12 of them are gone. Normal. People move all the time. Nothing I could have done.
Except allow building more homes. Vote for politicians who'd have allowed building more homes. My guess is, the author has voted against her own interests.
Which one is more important, keeping the "charm" of houses and neighborhoods where you cannot afford to live anyway, or keeping those 12 your closest childhood friends, even if that means allowing to build apartment buildings for them to live in? You choose.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#3> It’s not my fault she’s gone, that all 12 of them are gone. Normal. People move all the time. Nothing I could have done. Except allow building more homes. Vote for politicians who'd have allowed building more homes. My guess is, the author has voted against her own interests. Which one is more important, keeping the "charm" of houses and neighborhoods where you cannot afford to live anyway, or keeping those 12 your…
I think it's too late for that. Adding more reasonable priced homes just means that companies currently looking outside the valley can now continue to grow there so there will continuously be a shortage and thus high pricing and wages. It's going to take a significant bubble burst to reset it.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#4> It’s not my fault she’s gone, that all 12 of them are gone. Normal. People move all the time. Nothing I could have done. Except allow building more homes. Vote for politicians who'd have allowed building more homes. My guess is, the author has voted against her own interests. Which one is more important, keeping the "charm" of houses and neighborhoods where you cannot afford to live anyway, or keeping those 12 your…
I think it's too late for that. Adding more reasonable priced homes just means that companies currently looking outside the valley can now continue to grow there so there will continuously be a shortage and thus high pricing and wages. It's going to take a significant bubble burst to reset it.
If it's too late, when (in the past several years) would it have not been too late? There were always companies that have considered expanding in San Francisco, as there will be for years to come, and if building more housing helps at least a few existing residents then it seems like a net positive.
At any given point in time, there is a roughly finite amount of demand, and inching closer to meeting that demand can't hurt.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's too late for that. Adding more reasonable priced homes just means that companies currently looking outside the valley can now continue to grow there so there will continuously be a shortage and thus high pricing and wages. It's going to take a significant bubble burst to reset it.
If it's too late, when (in the past several years) would it have not been too late? There were always companies that have considered expanding in San Francisco, as there will be for years to come, and if building more housing helps at least a few existing residents then it seems like a net positive. At any given point in time, there is a roughly finite amount of demand, and inching closer to meeting that demand can't…
I agree that it can't hurt. My point was simply at this time it's not enough to solve the problem so it can only be a part of the solution.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's too late, when (in the past several years) would it have not been too late? There were always companies that have considered expanding in San Francisco, as there will be for years to come, and if building more housing helps at least a few existing residents then it seems like a net positive. At any given point in time, there is a roughly finite amount of demand, and inching closer to meeting that demand can't…
I agree that it can't hurt. My point was simply at this time it's not enough to solve the problem so it can only be a part of the solution.
Thanks, that makes sense and I agree. I guess I misinterpreted a little.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's too late, when (in the past several years) would it have not been too late? There were always companies that have considered expanding in San Francisco, as there will be for years to come, and if building more housing helps at least a few existing residents then it seems like a net positive. At any given point in time, there is a roughly finite amount of demand, and inching closer to meeting that demand can't…
I agree that it can't hurt. My point was simply at this time it's not enough to solve the problem so it can only be a part of the solution.
Maybe the author would be happier if even just 2 out or her 12 best friends had been able to stay?
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#8> It’s not my fault she’s gone, that all 12 of them are gone. Normal. People move all the time. Nothing I could have done. Except allow building more homes. Vote for politicians who'd have allowed building more homes. My guess is, the author has voted against her own interests. Which one is more important, keeping the "charm" of houses and neighborhoods where you cannot afford to live anyway, or keeping those 12 your…
Yes, exactly: https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/
SF is a city where zoning and homevoters: http://cityobservatory.org/homevoters-v-the-growth-machine/ have made the city impossible for any normal person to live a normal life there. Even tech workers making $150k/yr find it hard to live there. The solution is simple (remove any parking minimums, lot setbacks, and non-technical height limits) and the problems are entirely legal/regulatory.
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's too late for that. Adding more reasonable priced homes just means that companies currently looking outside the valley can now continue to grow there so there will continuously be a shortage and thus high pricing and wages. It's going to take a significant bubble burst to reset it.
If it's too late, when (in the past several years) would it have not been too late? There were always companies that have considered expanding in San Francisco, as there will be for years to come, and if building more housing helps at least a few existing residents then it seems like a net positive. At any given point in time, there is a roughly finite amount of demand, and inching closer to meeting that demand can't…
As an outside it became apparent that moving to SF/SV would be a challenge around ten years ago. There are a number of post on HN from "back in the day" that discusses this topic e.g:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=170719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=860913 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=236853 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1255718
Re: If San Francisco is so great, why is everyone I love leaving?
#10> It’s not my fault she’s gone, that all 12 of them are gone. Normal. People move all the time. Nothing I could have done. Except allow building more homes. Vote for politicians who'd have allowed building more homes. My guess is, the author has voted against her own interests. Which one is more important, keeping the "charm" of houses and neighborhoods where you cannot afford to live anyway, or keeping those 12 your…
Yes, exactly: https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/ SF is a city where zoning and homevoters: http://cityobservatory.org/homevoters-v-the-growth-machine/ have made the city impossible for any normal person to live a normal life there. Even tech workers making $150k/yr find it hard to live there. The solution is simple (remove any parking minimums, lot setbacks, and non-technical height limits) and the problem…
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