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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Surprisingly? I'd expect any cultural shift to take place among young people. Older people already have their culture.

I guess you’re right, just weird to see young people turn to a form of conservatism.

This seems to be the nature of things, we rebel against or parents, and mature and change, our children rebel against us, ...

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Wow. This whole thread and Right Wing Conservatives and Republicans aren't called out once? Hacker News has become as pandering to the right wing as Sheryl Sandberg and Facebook. Hypocrites.

Not sure if serious, but sex censorship is mostly a bi-partisan endeavor these days. See, e.g. the whole controversy around Patreon, where creators of sexually-suggestive content and right-wing/conservative intellectuals are both facing the prospect of being "de-platformed" for political reasons.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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The Church is definitely saying sex is bad, sex is a sin, must only be used for making children, not for pleasure, even in married couples. It's insane.

Sex clearly isn't a sin unto itself because it's needed for making children, so it's not that. If this was it why wouldn't pornography of married couples be a-ok?

You missed the "not for pleasure" part.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

Something more relevant to contemporary society is that it also works with prudishness, but through a different effect. Rather than a loss of business there will be a loss of support for non-prudish behavior.

As an example imagine video games that have characters in skimpy outfits. A tiny minority may complain about this. And it's often the case that this minority is not even actually a consumer of the products they're complaining about. But there will rarely be any meaningful voice against this minority going, "Wait.. no, I want my characters in skimpy outfits." Because to do so it makes you look like some sort of 'something' that's certainly undesirable. And so from the perspective a company that may not be particularly well attuned to its own userbase, it will see 100% of respondents on a given topic support censorship, 0% oppose it. That's not such a hard choice to make.

[1] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-25/video-gam...

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One real-world example is Coca Cola [0]. While most of the consumers probably don't care, influence of a small but committed minority made Coca Cola kosher, halal, and vegan. [0] https://www.sciencehistory.org/distillations/magazine/the-re...

I'm not sure veganism counts as a superstition.

Let's just say conviction (in this case, it was also just a side effect).

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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> It's just that Google's 2018 algorithm upgrade filters out news with the word "porn" in it. Like articles about porn performer suicide, tips for revenge porn victims, parents who oppose porn website age-verification

I'm puzzled - I searched for "porn performer suicide" and the other two in Google and it returned relevant searches in each case. I don't particularly want Google bring up porn results when I'm not looking for it and it seems to work ok if you do want to look.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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I find the US prudishness thing so fascinating. I'm travelling at the moment, and meeting lots of Americans (and Europeans for contrast). There's definitely a huge difference in tolerance for swearing and blasphemy. Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. I guess it all comes down to the religion. Americans do seem to be more religiou…

One thing that got me thinking the other day, is that English is the only language that i know of that has the X-word replacement for swear words. In other languages people either use a similar sounding word (fuck/fudge) or just don't use it.

I'd be interested to know why is this and if other languages have a similar way of putting the word in your head without saying it.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

One real-world example is Coca Cola [0]. While most of the consumers probably don't care, influence of a small but committed minority made Coca Cola kosher, halal, and vegan. [0] https://www.sciencehistory.org/distillations/magazine/the-re...

By my calculation just about half (maybe just 1/3rd) of the world population doesn't eat pork for various reasons, and Coca Cola is an international brand, so be careful who you call a minority.

Of course I just added practitioners of religions that forbid the consumption of pork together and I'm aware some of those eat pork anyways (because they don't adhere to it too closely), but still: It will be a sizeable market.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Exactly what is happening with planes. I'm still astonished every time I get into one and see the missing row 13. It's so ridiculous...

Especially if you are superstitious and sit in row 14, you must know that this is actually row 13 undercover!

Don't forget to also avoid row 12 just to be sure!

They could have counted the seats from zero, but labelled them from 1.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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> Capitalism is an elegant system for resource allocation, really. I wish more people understood it. It heavily depends on who you are and the type of capitalism in question. The present implementation in many places seems less than elegant. For example CEO pay has been skyrocketing compared to worker wages precisely because as companies have more and more resources, they don't have a reasonable means to distribute t…

I know it's not perfect, but that really misses the forest for the trees. I for one agree we need to find a way to redistribute that wealth, but what exactly generated all of that ridiculous wealth on the first place? And people have access to more advanced goods and services than ever at unprecedentedly cheap prices. Again, I agree we need to lift up our lower class right now, but by many metrics, it's better to be…

I am not saying capitalism as such is terrible, or that we should abolish it etc. What I do think we need is to have a more healthy mix of properly regulated capitalism, higher taxation of top earners, closing loopholes and corporations storing cash overseas and healthy social programs, infrastructure development etc.

As for " it's better to be impoverished today than to be middle class 50 years ago", there was certainly less access to all kinds of goods, but there was much more job security as well, (you could work for a single company all your career), there was also more opportunity to own a house at a younger age and move higher up the ladder with lower education and less debt.

What you also need to look at is things like student debt, 50 years ago, higher education was free at the point of use. Now, it puts you into dept at an enormously young age, before you even fully realize what it all means.

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