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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by __david__ »

oefrha wrote: post #220
koonsolo wrote: post #206

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Beeping away words is something you will never see/hear in European productions. "What the beep are you talking about you son of a beep ". Jerry Springer comes to mind. European movies also have no trouble showing fully nude males, something you will never see in Hollywood. The sensoring in texts like f*ck is also seen a lot online.

You’re right, some cable networks do the beep thing, others don’t. Guess I’ve been self-selected to be biased towards the latter category; I haven’t heard a beep for quite a while.

All over the air networks don't have profanity (ABC, NBC, CBS, CW--you know, the big ones) because of FCC rules. Cable is not covered by FCC laws and their shows can freely swear (though I was surprised by the most recent seasons of Happy and Mr. Robot not bleeping their F-words on cable as it used to be verboten just a couple years ago).

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Post by Flimm »

coldtea wrote: post #215
belorn wrote: post #183

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I would also blame religion if not that here in Sweden we went from accepting sex and censoring violence to accepting violence and censoring sex, within about the span of almost just 10-20 years. The norm just changed and its very noticeable in movies if one compared those made before 1990 and those made after 2000. There is no corresponding change in the religious demographic. If anything that demographic went down…

That's the Americanization of the world. If most of one's movies, songs, tv shows, social media control, search engine biases, etc, come from a single country, with its cultural stickups, that's what you get.

I would hypothesize that it is due to the greater influence of feminism. I realise that not all feminists would agree, but many feminists have been against the objectification of women's bodies in pornography, sexualized advertising and media.

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Post by avip »

bambax wrote: post #172

In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

Articulate take on that here https://www.ted.com/talks/richard_dawkins_on_militant_atheis...

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Post by AsyncAwait »

darkerside wrote: post #249
bambax wrote: post #172

In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

It's not superstitious, it's a measure of caring. The superstitious in this case care very strongly about not having black doors, and they vote with their wallets. The other folks do not give a damn either way, and so shops stop painting doors black. Imagine a small subgroup decides they really, really love black doors. They will pay double price for a black door because they are so hard to find. Shop owner will sati…

> Capitalism is an elegant system for resource allocation, really. I wish more people understood it.

It heavily depends on who you are and the type of capitalism in question. The present implementation in many places seems less than elegant.

For example CEO pay has been skyrocketing compared to worker wages precisely because as companies have more and more resources, they don't have a reasonable means to distribute them fairly, so they just dump the majority of the proceeds on the top management as a lazy hack.

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Post by ralusek »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #258
travisoneill1 wrote: post #241

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Yeah the logic checks out, but is fighting it any better? In this case there are basically 2 options. Create a competing superstition that says black doors are good, or make laws requiring doors to be painted black. So now you either have 2 superstitions or something a whole lot worse than a superstition. In this case it's probably better to just live with not having black doors.

> Create a competing superstition that says black doors are good, or make laws requiring doors to be painted black. Or, you know, that the color of the door doesn't matter? I fail to see how that'll be a superstition.

In modern political landscape, deciding that the door's color doesn't matter would be to deny its identity.

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Post by TomMarius »

blattimwind wrote: post #211
odiroot wrote: post #201

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Ok that's actually very interesting. I noticed a similar pattern but didn't want to put too much to it.

A large contributing factor is probably that younger people have a lot less sex and start to have sex much later than e.g. their parents.

What causes that?

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Post by mk89 »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #235
bambax wrote: post #172

In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

Depends on the superstition, if it were "you should say 'black door' every time you see one [and you'll have good luck]" then it would make no difference. It would neither inhibit nor encourage those of the out-group. Let's look at religion: if my religion says "give money to orphans" then you don't need to fight it, it doesn't harm you, if it says "make everyone who's not part of our group subservient or dead" then…

> Let's look at religion: if my religion says "give money to orphans" then you don't need to fight it, it doesn't harm you, if it says "make everyone who's not part of our group subservient or dead" then you must fight it.

Go and tell the legislators.

Where does the fight start, and where does it end?

And what's the consequence of "we (the people who don't believe it) need to fight it"?

I ask you these questions because they are really issues we are facing as a society based on freedom of speech (and religion).

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Post by mac_was »

renholder wrote: post #236
mac_was wrote: post #68

The artist claims that internet killed porn then switches to Yahoo News and is able to find what she is looking for, so it seems that she is unhappy that it is not reachable on Google. Another point is that when she worked with teenagers their biggest question was how to prevent diseases, pregnancy, one quick question- how would they find answers on porn sites? All the answers are available publicly on health related…

>All the answers are available publicly on health related sites like the NHS for example... I hate to put it like this but the NHS is, largely, unknown to the Americans. They have their own version (e.g.: Department of Health, Surgeon General, etc.) but I think you skimmed on something that is a byproduct of that cultural mentality: Sex and nudity is bad; therefore, any education around that is bad. People might be a…

I dont know how it is called in the USA as I dont live there... sorry.

Sex and nudity are not bad, porn might be.

There are several researches about it like this one: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hero/201603/is-porn-...

Sex !== porn and we should all remember about it.

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Post by AsyncAwait »

ralusek wrote: post #265
AsyncAwait wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Create a competing superstition that says black doors are good, or make laws requiring doors to be painted black. Or, you know, that the color of the door doesn't matter? I fail to see how that'll be a superstition.

In modern political landscape, deciding that the door's color doesn't matter would be to deny its identity.

> In modern political landscape

If that's a reference to the various gender pronouns and the like, regardless of what you think about it, it mostly strives for equal rights, not more rights as far as I know, so a more apt mapping may be that the doors should be approached in the same way regardless of what particular color they are today.

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Post by amelius »

grenoire wrote: post #173
bambax wrote: post #172

In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

Taleb has a piece on this exact observation https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...

How would it apply to slavery? I.e., a small but not insignificant portion of people thought that slavery was bad (namely the slaves themselves). Yet, slavery continued for quite a long time.
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