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This. What is wrong with nudity? What is wrong if a child sees a dick or a titty? Why are ashamed? Why is nudity such an awful thing?
It’s a religion thing primarily.
Could you expand?
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Ah yes, anti-harassment tools are automatically censorship; next you're going to tell me every feminist has blue hair, hunting men at tech conferences (you know, it's sort of a game, who can break the highscore?).
Often anti-harassment tools are literally censorship, it’s just censorship people have collectively agreed is morally worthwhile. I feel like the Internet has shown society enough examples where free speech can have negative consequences that many people are unsure whether completely free speech is really a good thing. I’m not going to add my personal opinion to this about whether it’s good or bad, but let’s at least…
It doesn't work like this on the internet. You're not owed a podium to speak from. Most websites aren't public places. You can't treat them like that.
Is it suppression of free speech if you don't let in some jehovah's witnesses to your house? Would anyone ever fathom I'd even have to ask such a ridiculous question?
I'd agree if there was a complete lack of unmoderated spaces and no infrastructure provider would want to take your money. But there is.
If you want to be an edgelord online, go to a chan or gab or minds or some free speech fediverse server or whatever, you have options, you just don't have a guarantee that people will listen to you.
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There are some portals listed on this similar recent hn thread, in which I added to a similar comment, ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19040384 ) - basically that for many people the internet is google, and for many, especially in other countries from what I have read, 'the internet' is facebook. It appears many people do not know how to use urls or ask people about other portals. If facebook censors it, they…
> Heck people put google.com into the box and search for it rather then enter a url and hit ctrl-enter. Not even that. They google directly from the address bar. Once you could google without going to google.com, anecdotally I started to notice most people would google everything, including URLs they obviously knew
remembering urls is not a trivial task. it's the reason why we have bookmarks and history functions in browsers. a good search engine like google abstracts that away. i couldn't remember the name stack overflow for quite some time(i always associated stack with hay in my mind)
just typing in "hay code questions" would get me to stackoverflow in google. not so in bing/yahoo search(at the time)
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#165Sometimes I wonder how (un-)realistic it is to fill a complain with the EU of google misusing it's quasi monopoly on search to actively discriminate against:
- People with open opinions about sex (e.g. down ranking there blog posts etc.).
- People which had been victims of sexual violence (and similar) by making it harder for them to inform them self/get help.
- Sex workers.
- etc.
(note that this is a unordered list!)
Same goes for other platforms e.g. PayPal.
Sure there might be a difference if you use a platform to display pornographic content to people without appropriate age checks. But non of this applies for Google (search) or PayPal (payment).
Lastly people might argue that they are just following US law (e.g. for PayPal) but if they operate in the EU then they will have to follow EU law and discrimination against people for _any_ reason is illegal, this includes excluding a blog from search results because it openly speaks about porn or people _legal_ earning money with videos of their naked body.
Well but then I'm not a lawyer and didn't really think this through either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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> I hear of no stories where people have found happy and fulfilled lives as prostitutes Here's one: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-majority-of... . "In fact, when you ask sex workers about their job satisfaction and working conditions – as a study led by Leeds University just has – the majority of them are happy. When asked to describe their work, respondents typically selected positive or neutral w…
Sex work is legal in Germany. I don’t know where to look for the equivalent statistics in Germany, but that would settle the question of if legalisation would solve the problem of violence.
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo... conducted a meta-analysis of studies looking at the effect of legalisation and found "Together, the qualitative and quantitative evidence demonstrate the extensive harms associated with criminalisation of sex work, including laws and enforcement targeting the sale and purchase of sex, and activities relating to sex work organisation."
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#167I find the US prudishness thing so fascinating. I'm travelling at the moment, and meeting lots of Americans (and Europeans for contrast). There's definitely a huge difference in tolerance for swearing and blasphemy. Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. I guess it all comes down to the religion. Americans do seem to be more religiou…
More specifically, it's US' brand of Evangelical Protestantism that's ultra prudish. This seems to have seeped into their society as a whole.
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#168"Google News shows one lonely result for "porn," an article that is 26 days old." Must be a regional thing. Gives plenty of fresh (less than a day old) articles when searched in Estonia. Edit: this is for Google search "news" tab. If I go to Google News ( https://news.google.com ) and search from there, get no results.
I've confirmed this happens in Australia. Except it's zero results, not one.
Same in Japan. Zero results for "porn". On a different note, I can't believe how terrible google news UI looks. It used to be easy to find things, now it looks like some designer had to prove something so he wouldn't be let go. Ahh, maybe I am getting too old for this - first they ruin Gmail, now they spread that vomit they call material design to the rest of the web.
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#169I find the US prudishness thing so fascinating. I'm travelling at the moment, and meeting lots of Americans (and Europeans for contrast). There's definitely a huge difference in tolerance for swearing and blasphemy. Also several well-educated and seemingly intelligent Americans who hold strong racist opinions. But that's another subject. I guess it all comes down to the religion. Americans do seem to be more religiou…
> Though I can't find that anywhere in any of the commandments, or the new testament.
A quibble - while this negative view of sex may not be the view of other texts in the Bible, it is very clearly part of Paul's worldview, as evidenced in e.g. 2 Corinthians.
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#170The sex-bad-violence-good meme confused me at least since I became aware of its existence aged about 14. I was 16 when I got a letter published in a UK national newspaper on this topic, pointing out the absurdity that deliberate murder could be shown in a cartoon aimed specifically at young kids (i.e. BBFC rating Uc), but people “my own age”[1] couldn’t see pictures of uncensored sex even though we could legally[1] p…
> The sex-bad-violence-good meme confused me at least since I became aware of its existence aged about 14.
It's even more confusing because hypersexualization is totally fine, as long as the areola et al. remain invisible and you don't use plain language to refer to sex.