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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by taurath »

throwaway415415 wrote: post #50
bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

This. What is wrong with nudity? What is wrong if a child sees a dick or a titty? Why are ashamed? Why is nudity such an awful thing?

It’s a religion thing primarily.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by hellofunk »

normalhuman wrote: post #89
bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

One of the first times I traveled to the USA, I was watching TV in my hotel room and caught some sort of documentary about art. They were showing a painting by Gustav Klimt and the nipples were blurred out . I couldn't believe it! I knew about American prudishness over nudity and sex, but I didn't know it went that deep. It made me want to learn more about the phenomenon. Some common explanations: - The USA is just w…

> The USA is just way more religious overall; - Pilgrims were the most radical protestant Christians, they were kicked out of Europe and then spread their social norms in the USA, in a very early moment of the development of American culture.

Exactly, and most Americans are quite unaware of the brutal history and behaviors of the Pilgrims. They celebrate Pilgrims at Thanksgiving and teach kids only about the ships they sailed on (the Mayflower, an iconic name), not about how Pilgrims burned each other alive if they did not satisfy the religious standards of the culture. America was built on this mentality, yet it is never taught and it seeps through the culture.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #37
lazyjones wrote: post #3

YMMV... For me, the last straw was having to click away 2-3 banners that cover the content on every website and then often being slapped in the face with a subscription box. This is simply conditioning me to expect disappointment and hence to stop clicking on links. Even on HN I find myself clicking straight on the comment links to get an idea of what the link is about.

I wish every link could get a score based on how shitty the things it links to are, in terms of banners and paywalls. I need to know way in advance about toxic sites in a way that links that lead there get docked points for linking to toxic places, PageRank style.

Isn’t this what google was supposed to be doing?

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by koonsolo »

bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

Another thing I saw in US is that they can't make the distinction between hardcore porn, soft porn, erotica, nudity and showing some cleavage.

I used to work at a European game company that made erotic games for PocketPC. Our biggest market was US, and most negativity also came from US. Video striptease is labeled as "porn".

What they preach is very different from how they act. You cannot say fuck or shit on tv or internet, but in real life everyone does it.

When Janet Jackson show a nipple on TV, it's a huge fuzz. But having a colleagues gathering in a striptease bar is normal.

I'm pretty sure the prudish public behavior enforces the excessive private behavior.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by nopriorarrests »

monadgonad wrote: post #57
nopriorarrests wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, then it's not "Sex censorship killed the internet we love", it's "fcsk! world does not work the way I want". go to BMW marketing dept and pitch them the value of being advertised next to mature lady sucking two huge young cocks. maybe they really miss this opportunity and it will make them millions? I dont know.

Are you just going to keep talking about advertising? Because it's not about advertising.

nah.

as long as advertising stays the most popular way for site owners to pay the costs -- this is about advertising, sorry.

once patreons or subscriptions will become bigger -- we will talk. but as of now, it's about advertising.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by Sharlin »

preommr wrote: post #90
bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

I honestly don't understand why people compare the two. We process fake violence and sexual content very differently. When we see someone get their head blown off in a movie it's over the top and ridiculous. Often times it's used to tell us that something major has happened while being very different from reality. I've seen videos on liveleak that are absolutely horrific. And yet I've seen much more gruesome scenes i…

You’re showing the exact cultural bias that the GP is talking about.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by hawski »

normalhuman wrote: post #89
bad_user wrote: post #43

What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

One of the first times I traveled to the USA, I was watching TV in my hotel room and caught some sort of documentary about art. They were showing a painting by Gustav Klimt and the nipples were blurred out . I couldn't believe it! I knew about American prudishness over nudity and sex, but I didn't know it went that deep. It made me want to learn more about the phenomenon. Some common explanations: - The USA is just w…

Aren't these Victorian era leftovers? It would explain UK and USA to some extent. Also I'm not sure, but isn't Spain also more relaxed in case of nudity?

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by mixmastamyk »

hellofunk wrote: post #92
normalhuman wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the first times I traveled to the USA, I was watching TV in my hotel room and caught some sort of documentary about art. They were showing a painting by Gustav Klimt and the nipples were blurred out . I couldn't believe it! I knew about American prudishness over nudity and sex, but I didn't know it went that deep. It made me want to learn more about the phenomenon. Some common explanations: - The USA is just w…

> The USA is just way more religious overall; - Pilgrims were the most radical protestant Christians, they were kicked out of Europe and then spread their social norms in the USA, in a very early moment of the development of American culture. Exactly, and most Americans are quite unaware of the brutal history and behaviors of the Pilgrims. They celebrate Pilgrims at Thanksgiving and teach kids only about the ships th…

The salem witch-hunts are taught but agree on the back burner.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by monksy »

foolfoolz wrote: post #7

This doesnt make sense to me. Core internet community experiences to me have always been about smaller sites, message boards, mailing lists, chatrooms, voice chat groups, etc. Seeing large corporation websites like tumblr, reddit, facebook crack down on content doesn't stop any of that. it just means you need to get out of your internet bubble.

I was about to write an whole comment about how Violet Blue's perspective wasn't matched with reality. But you hit the main point dead on.

I feel that her perspective is not very sympathetic to the average couple nor is it relatable with the average corporation. It hasn't been in the past and it isn't now. The closest that she can get to what she's asking for is Fetlife.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by onion2k »

romwell wrote: post #75
sschueller wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States is quite a violent place and it is reflected in its media. With multiple wars on going and a huge weapons industry people have become to accept it as normal. Prison rape is accepted as something that just happens and police across the nation are armed like military.

>The United States is quite a violent place... This does not address the OP's question in any way. The US is also quite a sexy place, with a lot of sex happening. Last time I heard, everyone's parents had sex at least once, and most people had it multiple times over the course of their lives! Why then we censor this, by every definition, commonplace activity?

All of these things (violence guns, police, censorship, etc) are about controlling people and restricting freedom. "Land of the free" is an advertising slogan; America is one of the least free countries there is.
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