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Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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Churches are the biggest donators in the world. Does that count for anything for them?

Is that true?

Sure, though because they don't have a common banner their cumulative effect is what's worth mentioning. Here's the first numbers table i found on google. though it's a bit old: http://www.zimbabwe.cc/html/charity-statistics-usa-example.h...

That's just in the U.S. Not to mention the centuries that they've been in existence.

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

#112
post #87

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> HN, by comparison, discussions last only as long as the link remains on the homepage Maybe if you don't check your threads for replies. Granted, not everyone does that, but I've conversed with more than a few folks long after the original story vanished.

I check the threads link periodically (for example, right now) but I find most other participants in the conversation do not and almost 90% of the time the conversation is dead by the end of the day.

I guess it depends more on who you converse with. I mean, just now, I got here via the threads link and I've already forgotten what story this was under.

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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post #79
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Am I the only person who found Reddit generally quite unpleasant? It really is heart-warming to hear of all the good that those on Reddit have done. But I can't help feel that it's the exact same mob mentality which made me want to leave Reddit in the first place — discussions got extremely polarised very quickly and there seemed to be very little room for reasoned dialogue. The article makes it sound like a good thi…

For me, the main unpleasantness of reddit lies in the amount of pun threads that show up in the comments on any story. It may have been funny at first, but it just makes it harder and harder to find the actual interesting comments. however, judging by the number of upvotes they all receive, there's probably hundreds of thousands of people out there who disagree with me, but seriously, a lot of comments on there are l…

I rarely see those. If you see them a lot, you can tinker with your thresholds so most of them will be hidden.

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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I actually find reddit to be somewhat nauseating. Call me cynical, but I can't help but think the Reddit community performs every kind act with an air of smug, self-centerdness you often find in creepy church youth groups or after school specials. I started visiting reddit because digg's links started sucking, and now I visit HN primarily because reddit is no longer about good links either. It's a maassive geek circl…

I will call you cynical. How can you sit there and say that? You have no examples of them doing this for self-serving purposes and quite frankly, the volume and repetition of their generosity is so great that it is bewildering to think that they are doing it for self serving purposes. And who gives a shit if I get off on helping people? Isn't it a good thing that I feel good about helping people? Isn't that in line w…

I think this is the fundamental misunderstanding of Reddit on HN. If you stick with defaults, you're missing the best features of Reddit.

Customize your frontpage and set your thresholds, and Reddit is whatever you want it to be.

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

#116
post #4

Am I the only person who found Reddit generally quite unpleasant? It really is heart-warming to hear of all the good that those on Reddit have done. But I can't help feel that it's the exact same mob mentality which made me want to leave Reddit in the first place — discussions got extremely polarised very quickly and there seemed to be very little room for reasoned dialogue. The article makes it sound like a good thi…

Reddit is not a place to have dialogue. Community-moderated areas just aren't very good at it. Even HN has been accused from suffering groupthink. If you want dialogue, forums, mailing lists or better yet, the real world (if you can find the community you need to discuss things with), is a better place to have it.

Or use Google Chrome/Chromium and get the Chattit extension so you can bicker in real-time!

But seriously most people are members of Reddit, Digg (well..), HN etc. it's not like each website only has the same guys and girls (yes girls!) whether people admit it or not some if not most people read many types of social news websites.

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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post #99
post #94

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The technical discussion on HN is not better than on Reddit. There is more noise on Reddit, but the level of expertise in the top is often higher. The people on Reddit in technical discussions are often more knowledgeable and more open minded (the tone of the discussion is less serious). HN has more groupthink and hero-envy.

HN also has a much stronger focus on entrepreneurship (understandably so). The level of technical competence on HN is very high, and there's way less noise, so if you're a technically competent person with a business side (or if you're just interested in the business side), HN has a plethora of good for you. As you note, the level of technical competence in the subreddits and threads that pertain to technical matters…

> As you note, the level of technical competence in the subreddits and threads that pertain to technical matters is higher on Reddit. Articles and discussions about just about any facet of any field that requires long-studied domain knowledge will have at least one commenter that really knows their stuff and wants to help people understand it.

This is exactly what I mean. For example in a discussion about D, Walter Bright (the creator of D) joins in. In a discussion on Scala Martin Odersky joins in. That's pretty awesome.

> This does come with the problem that someone who is just crafty with words can create detailed troll paragraphs that laymen can't easily distinguish from legitimate information (and this does happen, and is arguable inevitable once a discussion community grows to contain some ill-defined number of members)

Yes, although surprisingly often the crowd will choose the good comments will to be upvoted. There are exceptions of course. For example jdh30 nearly always gets downvoted no matter what he says, even if his comment is helpful and correct.

> HN also has a much stronger focus on entrepreneurship (understandably so).

Yes, on entrepreneurship topics HN has better discussion. Reddit is a bit anti-entrepreneur (especially anti-bigco).

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

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post #78

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I'm left-of-center (by US standards anyway) I find making sensible, well reasoned and referenced arguments works pretty well. I've never been voted down because people disagreed with me.

Reddit is left of center, so that's not surprising.

So he probably meant on HN?

Re: Reddit’s Astonishing Altruism

#120
post #101

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There are a lot of people (myself included) that do not think that there are taboo topics of conversation, or taboo topics of jokes -- humor relies at least partially on delivery and unexpected turns / clever twists, which are largely independent of subject matter. That said, that doesn't mean that I think it's necessarily appropriate to make racist jokes on a board like Reddit -- it's a textual medium, and depending…

I agree, it depends though. I think mostly the jokes manage to not offend, and offensive jokes are downvoted. There's not really so much misogyny as bias to side with the submitter. When someone says "my girlfriend cheated on me" everyone goes "dump that bitch/X that Y", but if a woman says "my boyfriend cheated on me", people will again say "dump that SOB". It's not that they're against women, they're against whomev…

I personally don't tend to find those types of jokes very funny, but I think that's mostly because I've heard a lot of them.

I think that what you state here absolutely happens, but I think that there's also a good bit of actual nerdy women-are/men-are angst floating around that at least gets interpreted (or is interpretable) as misogyny/misandry. Not as bad as it used to be, and it always gets called out (at least recently as far as I've seen), but it's there.

I figure it's largely just a function of relative immaturity, and that it's not a serious thing as long as it's called out and it's obvious that the vast majority of people on Reddit don't actually think like that. I definitely don't think that Reddit is a bunch of ridiculous sexists -- it's one of the most egalitarian groups of it's size I've ever seen.

Edit: To clarify, I don't think there's a very large overlap between the people who are making "offensive" jokes, and the people actual displaying misogyny, misandry, or other forms of bigotry (whether realized or not) in the Reddit community, although some of the former certainly gets interpreted as the latter here and there. It can be hard to tell sometimes.

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